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<blockquote data-quote="Dan Mortensen" data-source="post: 83910" data-attributes="member: 2826"><p>Re: AC and signal cable of whatever type</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From page 28 of the X32 User Manual, downloaded today:</p><p></p><p>-----------</p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18">1. Connect the S16 stage box to AES50 port A on the rear panel of the console using a standard Cat 5 Ethernet cable.</span></p><p>-----------</p><p></p><p>From page 30, same source: </p><p></p><p>-----------</p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #1a1a18">The X32 family of products, however, makes using separate FOH and monitor consoles easy and affordable. This is due to the fact that the microphone signals, once digitized, can be easily duplicated and sent to multiple locations, using a single off-the-shelf Cat-5 Ethernet cable.</span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"></span>-----------</p><p></p><p>From page 31, same source:</p><p></p><p>-----------</p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18">Since the X32 console works with the affordable S16 digital stagebox, the combined system makes a great solution for routing audio signals between a separate studio and control room. The S16 and various Ultranet personal monitor mixers can be set up in the studio, while the console itself is set up in the control room. A single Cat-5 Ethernet cable is all that is needed to connect the 16-32 channels of audio from 1-2 S16 boxes and all of the Ultranet mixers, a much better alternative than a thick, noisy, and expensive analog snake. In more modern homes and apartments</span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18">that have Cat-5 cabling running through the walls as part of a pre-built “structured wiring” package, the S16/Ultranet mixers and X32 console can even be set up in different rooms, with no need to run a long cable or leave any doors partially open!</span></p><p> <span style="color: #1a1a18">-----------</span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"></span></p><p>From the nearly-useless S16 User Guide, downloaded today, which seems almost identical to the equally nearly-useless S16 Quick Start Guide included with every S16, page 4:</p><p></p><p>-----------</p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18">Dual AES50 jacks allow transmission of all audio and MIDI data to the FOH X32 with a single Ethernet cable, and also allow up to 3 S16s to be cascaded for maximum channel count.</span></p><p> <span style="color: #1a1a18">-----------</span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">which is the only mention of the type of cable to be used with the S16 in either of those value-less documents. The connection drawings don't even show Ethercon connectors on the cables...</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And, other than what's buried in this thread, this is all that Behringer says in any way about what kind of cable must be used with the X32 system.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">So it would seem that you are at least four months late to the party with your clarification above, and that you and the User Guides are in disagreement since a shielded Ethernet cable is hardly either off-the-shelf or likely to be commonly found embedded in non-custom built home or apartment.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Which is correct?</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">Sorry to be antagonistic, but I've just spent multiple thousand dollars, relying on what Behringer has said before March 22, 2013, to build what I thought was a bulletproof snake scheme, an expense I felt was justified since the snake is the lifeline of any sound system.</span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'"></span></span></span></p><p><span style="color: #1a1a18"><span style="color: #222222"><span style="font-family: 'Verdana'">And certainly I'm not the only one who relied on the earlier information and bought accordingly.</span></span></span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dan Mortensen, post: 83910, member: 2826"] Re: AC and signal cable of whatever type From page 28 of the X32 User Manual, downloaded today: ----------- [COLOR=#1a1a18]1. Connect the S16 stage box to AES50 port A on the rear panel of the console using a standard Cat 5 Ethernet cable.[/COLOR] ----------- From page 30, same source: ----------- [COLOR=#1a1a18][COLOR=#1a1a18]The X32 family of products, however, makes using separate FOH and monitor consoles easy and affordable. This is due to the fact that the microphone signals, once digitized, can be easily duplicated and sent to multiple locations, using a single off-the-shelf Cat-5 Ethernet cable.[/COLOR] [/COLOR]----------- From page 31, same source: ----------- [COLOR=#1a1a18]Since the X32 console works with the affordable S16 digital stagebox, the combined system makes a great solution for routing audio signals between a separate studio and control room. The S16 and various Ultranet personal monitor mixers can be set up in the studio, while the console itself is set up in the control room. A single Cat-5 Ethernet cable is all that is needed to connect the 16-32 channels of audio from 1-2 S16 boxes and all of the Ultranet mixers, a much better alternative than a thick, noisy, and expensive analog snake. In more modern homes and apartments[/COLOR] [COLOR=#1a1a18]that have Cat-5 cabling running through the walls as part of a pre-built “structured wiring” package, the S16/Ultranet mixers and X32 console can even be set up in different rooms, with no need to run a long cable or leave any doors partially open! ----------- [/COLOR] From the nearly-useless S16 User Guide, downloaded today, which seems almost identical to the equally nearly-useless S16 Quick Start Guide included with every S16, page 4: ----------- [COLOR=#1a1a18]Dual AES50 jacks allow transmission of all audio and MIDI data to the FOH X32 with a single Ethernet cable, and also allow up to 3 S16s to be cascaded for maximum channel count. ----------- [COLOR=#222222][FONT=Verdana] which is the only mention of the type of cable to be used with the S16 in either of those value-less documents. The connection drawings don't even show Ethercon connectors on the cables... And, other than what's buried in this thread, this is all that Behringer says in any way about what kind of cable must be used with the X32 system. So it would seem that you are at least four months late to the party with your clarification above, and that you and the User Guides are in disagreement since a shielded Ethernet cable is hardly either off-the-shelf or likely to be commonly found embedded in non-custom built home or apartment. Which is correct? Sorry to be antagonistic, but I've just spent multiple thousand dollars, relying on what Behringer has said before March 22, 2013, to build what I thought was a bulletproof snake scheme, an expense I felt was justified since the snake is the lifeline of any sound system. And certainly I'm not the only one who relied on the earlier information and bought accordingly.[/FONT][/COLOR][/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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