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<blockquote data-quote="Per SÃ¸vik" data-source="post: 91456" data-attributes="member: 1285">Re: X32 Discussion&nbsp;Makes total sense and is in agreement with what I think I know. What I was getting at was that when reading Joe&#039;s explanation, one gets the impression that there is a gain stage in front of the preamp that takes care of the gain, making one wonder what the preamp actually does. I assume, and will continue to assume that the preamp gain control controls the gain feedback loop of the preamp itself.As for gain setting with the preamp control, I admit that I in theory prefer to do it that way because it gives some kind of precise control of the gain within the preamp itself and there is no digital attenutation to confuse the issue when looking for the right setting for a particular sound (ie finding the right saturation of the preamp, there seems to be a tiny interval with some saturation before you have clipping of the AD) in a recording situation. Using it live to adjust the gain, one might find that the first click reduces the total gain by 4.5dB, kind of taking you by surprise, and I have sometimes wondered if it screws up the scenes when used while scene setting, but haven&#039;t quite been able to put my finger on it.BTW, I believe one of the main reasons the Yamaha and the Midas (and X32) sound different when pushed is that the Yamaha preamps are able to clip the AD without any saturation in the preamp, while the Midas philosophy is to be able to push the preamps far into saturation before the output clips the AD, but this is (almost pure) speculation on my part.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Per SÃ¸vik, post: 91456, member: 1285"] Re: X32 Discussion Makes total sense and is in agreement with what I think I know. What I was getting at was that when reading Joe's explanation, one gets the impression that there is a gain stage in front of the preamp that takes care of the gain, making one wonder what the preamp actually does. I assume, and will continue to assume that the preamp gain control controls the gain feedback loop of the preamp itself. As for gain setting with the preamp control, I admit that I in theory prefer to do it that way because it gives some kind of precise control of the gain within the preamp itself and there is no digital attenutation to confuse the issue when looking for the right setting for a particular sound (ie finding the right saturation of the preamp, there seems to be a tiny interval with some saturation before you have clipping of the AD) in a recording situation. Using it live to adjust the gain, one might find that the first click reduces the total gain by 4.5dB, kind of taking you by surprise, and I have sometimes wondered if it screws up the scenes when used while scene setting, but haven't quite been able to put my finger on it. BTW, I believe one of the main reasons the Yamaha and the Midas (and X32) sound different when pushed is that the Yamaha preamps are able to clip the AD without any saturation in the preamp, while the Midas philosophy is to be able to push the preamps far into saturation before the output clips the AD, but this is (almost pure) speculation on my part. [/QUOTE]

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