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<blockquote data-quote="Eric Eskam" data-source="post: 98552" data-attributes="member: 2124"><p>Re: S16 audio drop outs</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Console on the UPS is probably the more critical. And an online UPS doesn't have to be overly expensive - I've had great luck with <a href="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102195" target="_blank">these CypberPower units</a>. That they are rack mountable out of the box is a double bonus. And lest you think these aren't cheap, good online UPS's (at least ones I would have used) were in the $800-$1000 range not too long ago. Technology (and China!) marches on. The nice thing about online (or double-conversion) UPS's is they are always "on" - your load is *always* running off of battery. No switchover. Ever. Well, unless the batteries go dead 8)~<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" />~<img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite6" alt=":cool:" title="Cool :cool:" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":cool:" /></p><p></p><p>I'd say your biggest issue is cable length. The closer you get to reaching the max on a specification, the greater other issues in your overall install (such as wonky connectors) are amplified. The suggestion to change the sample rate on the board/S16's is an interesting one to give you some more "margin for error". That's a quick and easy test to see if the problems at least reduce.</p><p></p><p>If they were installed correctly, the metal housing on the Ethercons serve the same purpose of the metalized jacks the Roland cable came with originally. Have you had the cable scoped with a frequency analyzer/cable tester? Not the $300 thing you can get at Home Depot but a good couple thousand dollar Fluke unit? I've had more problems with cables with bad connectors; which is why I hate terminating my own cables anymore. Not that some of the cheaper cables factory terminations are much better <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite3" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":(" /> I guess what I am trying to say in a somewhat obtuse way is you can't just look at a cable to know if it's good. AES50 is pretty demanding because audio is very demanding. We are stuffing 64 channels of low-latency audio down a couple of twisted pairs of copper. Talk about pushing the copper to it's theoretical limit!</p><p></p><p>Physics is a harsh misstress...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><span style="color: #333333">It is a little disconcerting that there doesn't seem to be much concrete to go on at this point. However, it should be noted that Behringer and Roland use different physical signaling standards - and at least at this point it looks like Roland's might be a little more resilient.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Eric Eskam, post: 98552, member: 2124"] Re: S16 audio drop outs Console on the UPS is probably the more critical. And an online UPS doesn't have to be overly expensive - I've had great luck with [URL="http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16842102195"]these CypberPower units[/URL]. That they are rack mountable out of the box is a double bonus. And lest you think these aren't cheap, good online UPS's (at least ones I would have used) were in the $800-$1000 range not too long ago. Technology (and China!) marches on. The nice thing about online (or double-conversion) UPS's is they are always "on" - your load is *always* running off of battery. No switchover. Ever. Well, unless the batteries go dead 8)~8-)~:cool: I'd say your biggest issue is cable length. The closer you get to reaching the max on a specification, the greater other issues in your overall install (such as wonky connectors) are amplified. The suggestion to change the sample rate on the board/S16's is an interesting one to give you some more "margin for error". That's a quick and easy test to see if the problems at least reduce. If they were installed correctly, the metal housing on the Ethercons serve the same purpose of the metalized jacks the Roland cable came with originally. Have you had the cable scoped with a frequency analyzer/cable tester? Not the $300 thing you can get at Home Depot but a good couple thousand dollar Fluke unit? I've had more problems with cables with bad connectors; which is why I hate terminating my own cables anymore. Not that some of the cheaper cables factory terminations are much better :( I guess what I am trying to say in a somewhat obtuse way is you can't just look at a cable to know if it's good. AES50 is pretty demanding because audio is very demanding. We are stuffing 64 channels of low-latency audio down a couple of twisted pairs of copper. Talk about pushing the copper to it's theoretical limit! Physics is a harsh misstress... [COLOR=#333333][/COLOR] [COLOR=#333333]It is a little disconcerting that there doesn't seem to be much concrete to go on at this point. However, it should be noted that Behringer and Roland use different physical signaling standards - and at least at this point it looks like Roland's might be a little more resilient.[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]
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