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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Maxwell" data-source="post: 64647" data-attributes="member: 321"><p>Re: X32 for theatrical work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>From what you say show control looks interesting. But it sounds like it is much more complicated then what I need. I have a tendency to safe almost everything but fader movements. And I usually even safe all of the area mics and only recall the sub masters for those. I really just want the right mics up at the right times so I can mix from there. I safe the mutes now so if there is a problem with a mic I can mute it without it coming back to life in the next scene and when the problem is fixed I can un-mute it. These will never be the kind of shows where a trained monkey can hit a go button on cue to make it happen. </p><p></p><p>I don’t want it to work like a lighting console; my comment about lighting consoles was just the fact that the ones I have worked on could do decimal point scenes. And I would like to see that in audio consoles. I have lighting console stories but this is an audio forum. All of the digital consoles I have used for these shows don’t have the capabilities of doing decimal point scenes. But I don’t know why they don’t build them that way if the lighting consoles can do it, why can’t the audio consoles do it. Is it really that hard to program that capability into it? Maybe it is. Every person that I have talked to that does musical theater wants that capability. </p><p></p><p>I think it is great that things have gotten to the point that a $3000 digital audio console can do so much and is so close to doing what I want for the musical theater shows that I do. These are school productions. They are schools in a heavily arts invested community. They are budget conscious but strive for excellence and put on some great shows. </p><p></p><p>I have gotten to a point that I won’t do a musical theater show without a digital console. And I am trying to figure out if the X32 will work for my needs. </p><p></p><p>We rent the digital consoles that we use for these shows. And it is sometimes getting hard to find what I want to use in my area for a price that works for the budget. I am close to NYC but they have a way over inflated idea of what rental rates should be. This summer I couldn’t get one mixer because it was being used by the sound company (that owned it) for ONE of the 10 days that I wanted it. I have used digital consoles that cost from about $55,000 to $12,000 for these shows. Some of those were a great deal I got or a demo unit. We have paid enough in renting digital consoles over the years that we could have paid for a very nice digital console. But if we had bought at the beginning it wouldn’t have been the right console. </p><p></p><p>I have developed ways to work around the limitations of most of the consoles that I have used. Some are more frustrating then others. But I usually don’t get all set up and into the venue for rehearsals till the Monday before a Thursday or Friday night opening. Sometimes the show runs for 2 weekends and sometimes it is only one weekend. So I don’t have a lot of time to make everything work. That is why I am asking for the capabilities to make it go quick. </p><p></p><p>Brad, do you do musical theater shows or do you just install systems. What do you use or install for them?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Maxwell, post: 64647, member: 321"] Re: X32 for theatrical work. From what you say show control looks interesting. But it sounds like it is much more complicated then what I need. I have a tendency to safe almost everything but fader movements. And I usually even safe all of the area mics and only recall the sub masters for those. I really just want the right mics up at the right times so I can mix from there. I safe the mutes now so if there is a problem with a mic I can mute it without it coming back to life in the next scene and when the problem is fixed I can un-mute it. These will never be the kind of shows where a trained monkey can hit a go button on cue to make it happen. I don’t want it to work like a lighting console; my comment about lighting consoles was just the fact that the ones I have worked on could do decimal point scenes. And I would like to see that in audio consoles. I have lighting console stories but this is an audio forum. All of the digital consoles I have used for these shows don’t have the capabilities of doing decimal point scenes. But I don’t know why they don’t build them that way if the lighting consoles can do it, why can’t the audio consoles do it. Is it really that hard to program that capability into it? Maybe it is. Every person that I have talked to that does musical theater wants that capability. I think it is great that things have gotten to the point that a $3000 digital audio console can do so much and is so close to doing what I want for the musical theater shows that I do. These are school productions. They are schools in a heavily arts invested community. They are budget conscious but strive for excellence and put on some great shows. I have gotten to a point that I won’t do a musical theater show without a digital console. And I am trying to figure out if the X32 will work for my needs. We rent the digital consoles that we use for these shows. And it is sometimes getting hard to find what I want to use in my area for a price that works for the budget. I am close to NYC but they have a way over inflated idea of what rental rates should be. This summer I couldn’t get one mixer because it was being used by the sound company (that owned it) for ONE of the 10 days that I wanted it. I have used digital consoles that cost from about $55,000 to $12,000 for these shows. Some of those were a great deal I got or a demo unit. We have paid enough in renting digital consoles over the years that we could have paid for a very nice digital console. But if we had bought at the beginning it wouldn’t have been the right console. I have developed ways to work around the limitations of most of the consoles that I have used. Some are more frustrating then others. But I usually don’t get all set up and into the venue for rehearsals till the Monday before a Thursday or Friday night opening. Sometimes the show runs for 2 weekends and sometimes it is only one weekend. So I don’t have a lot of time to make everything work. That is why I am asking for the capabilities to make it go quick. Brad, do you do musical theater shows or do you just install systems. What do you use or install for them? [/QUOTE]
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