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<blockquote data-quote="Kevin Maxwell" data-source="post: 65116" data-attributes="member: 321"><p>Re: X32 for theatrical work.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Most of the things I asked for at the beginning of this thread can be done on most other digital mixers so I assume that some of it was just an over site. If it was intentionally left off and will not be incorporated I would just like to know so I can remove the X32 from consideration for the shows I do.</p><p></p><p>Keep in mind that I usually safe everything but the fader movements, but I occasionally recall other things on a scene-by-scene basis. </p><p></p><p>I may not have said this at the beginning of this tread but I don’t have a lot of time to program these shows and the way I have been doing it has worked well for me. </p><p></p><p>I looked into the Show control that you linked to and I might be missing something but I don’t see that it has anything to offer that would help me. I wish it did and I might be missing something but I can’t find it in anything I have read on their web site or in their quick start guide. </p><p> </p><p>When you mentioned the Show Control software and I looked at it I was hoping I could do the following – </p><p></p><p>Save more scenes then the console can presently do. It looks like it might be able to recall scenes out of order with its own numbering scheme. But that looks messy. I wouldn’t even consider reusing a scene at another part of the show because if I make a change to it in one part I may be messing up the other place where it would be used. And as I mentioned I am not given enough time. </p><p></p><p>How about just saving over the scene I am working on as quickly as I can do it on the fly on most digital consoles, usually during a rehearsal or maybe even during a show. Half the time I am saving changes to a scene as I being given the cue to go to the next scene. It looks like it doesn’t write the data (scene) into SC it just recalls the consoles scenes.</p><p></p><p>Inserting a scene on the fly without me having to be mouse-ing around or clicking around to do it.</p><p></p><p>I can do most if not all of these things on different digital mixers. And I don’t see the need for what it looks like Show Control can do.</p><p></p><p>I use a sampler (poor mans instant replay) to playback sound effects. So that part of the program doesn’t interest me. </p><p></p><p>I am not sure what you can do with OSC but I would be interested to see what the capabilities are. BTW I have used a Behringer BCF2000 to control the Roland M400 mixer.</p><p></p><p>This is something I posted on the LAB last year.</p><p></p><p> I have used the BCF2000 with a couple of different digital consoles to give me some expanded fader capabilities. The one problem with this type of usage is the restrictions when dealing with scene recalls. The scene recalls in most of the consoles don’t send the data necessary to update the status of faders. So I only use it to control faders or other things that I have safed so there aren’t any changes to those faders when scenes are recalled. </p><p></p><p>One feature on some of the consoles is called SYSEXE (I think it stands for system exclusive) where it dumps a lot of data on a scene recall. I don’t know if it works the same on every console but on the Roland M400 it dumps so much data that it causes the BCF2000 to be unresponsive while it is waiting for all of the data. It is a lot of data that is of no use to the unit but it still has to wait. Luckily on the M400 it can be turned off. Otherwise it would be unusable.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kevin Maxwell, post: 65116, member: 321"] Re: X32 for theatrical work. Most of the things I asked for at the beginning of this thread can be done on most other digital mixers so I assume that some of it was just an over site. If it was intentionally left off and will not be incorporated I would just like to know so I can remove the X32 from consideration for the shows I do. Keep in mind that I usually safe everything but the fader movements, but I occasionally recall other things on a scene-by-scene basis. I may not have said this at the beginning of this tread but I don’t have a lot of time to program these shows and the way I have been doing it has worked well for me. I looked into the Show control that you linked to and I might be missing something but I don’t see that it has anything to offer that would help me. I wish it did and I might be missing something but I can’t find it in anything I have read on their web site or in their quick start guide. When you mentioned the Show Control software and I looked at it I was hoping I could do the following – Save more scenes then the console can presently do. It looks like it might be able to recall scenes out of order with its own numbering scheme. But that looks messy. I wouldn’t even consider reusing a scene at another part of the show because if I make a change to it in one part I may be messing up the other place where it would be used. And as I mentioned I am not given enough time. How about just saving over the scene I am working on as quickly as I can do it on the fly on most digital consoles, usually during a rehearsal or maybe even during a show. Half the time I am saving changes to a scene as I being given the cue to go to the next scene. It looks like it doesn’t write the data (scene) into SC it just recalls the consoles scenes. Inserting a scene on the fly without me having to be mouse-ing around or clicking around to do it. I can do most if not all of these things on different digital mixers. And I don’t see the need for what it looks like Show Control can do. I use a sampler (poor mans instant replay) to playback sound effects. So that part of the program doesn’t interest me. I am not sure what you can do with OSC but I would be interested to see what the capabilities are. BTW I have used a Behringer BCF2000 to control the Roland M400 mixer. This is something I posted on the LAB last year. I have used the BCF2000 with a couple of different digital consoles to give me some expanded fader capabilities. The one problem with this type of usage is the restrictions when dealing with scene recalls. The scene recalls in most of the consoles don’t send the data necessary to update the status of faders. So I only use it to control faders or other things that I have safed so there aren’t any changes to those faders when scenes are recalled. One feature on some of the consoles is called SYSEXE (I think it stands for system exclusive) where it dumps a lot of data on a scene recall. I don’t know if it works the same on every console but on the Roland M400 it dumps so much data that it causes the BCF2000 to be unresponsive while it is waiting for all of the data. It is a lot of data that is of no use to the unit but it still has to wait. Luckily on the M400 it can be turned off. Otherwise it would be unusable. [/QUOTE]
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