X32 Discussion

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John Chiara said:
Do other digital consoles feature this?
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I don't know, never used a delayed Solobus it in last 20 years.
Rarely I used some delayed monitor speakers at FoH, when the Stage was very far away or the Foh was settled in a "strange place/position".
So it might come handy sometimes.
 
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I stopped by the Midas shop in Vegas today and they happened to have an X32 in their demo room. So, I decided to bang on it a little bit...

Impressions:
-The faders feel cheap. Go from a Yamaha 01v to this and you feel the difference.
-The knobs feel cheap. They feel better than a Studiolive, but still a little on the flimsy side.
-Build quality overall is decent. It feels sturdy.
-The UI is very easy to use. Bouncing around from page to page was easy. Assigning/routing things was cake.
-The scribble strips are awesome. A feature that no other "small" digital desk has.

Unfortunately I didn't get to put any audio through it... If this thing works as it's supposed to, and sounds half decent, it's going to kill. Nothing even comes close in terms of bang for your buck. The Behringer name is probably the only thing holding it back, but again, that may not even matter soon!




Evan
 
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-The faders feel cheap. Go from a Yamaha 01v to this and you feel the difference.
-The knobs feel cheap. They feel better than a Studiolive, but still a little on the flimsy side.
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Sorry, don't want to offend you, but I think it is just the opposite!
I did hundreds of shows with the Yamaha 01V and 01V96, and their faders are way more noisier and slower in reaction.
Ok, I had the direct comparison, so it is easier for me to evaluate-->



In addition, if you link two channels on a Yamaha LS9/M7CL, Roland M400 or even a Soundcraft Si - one fader is always significant slower than the other.
This is also better with the X32.
Don't know about the knobs on the X32 either. The X32 are not wobbly, easy to rotate and also precise. Nothing wrong with them inho. In comparision, you need more "force" to turn the Pots on a PreSonus SL.
I know, I sound like a Behringer Fan Boy and in fact after 25 gigs on a X32 I'm a fan...at least of the X32. ;-)
 
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Christian Boche said:
No, there are only a few available at the moment. But I had the chance, to use one S-16 on one gig-->

Works like a charme, really nice box. Will buy two for sure.
Christian
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Is 2 the limitation? For instance if I was to have 3 stageracks and each located at a different spot on stage to facilitate easy connecting points, will that work? I understand that the mixer is limited to controlling a total of 32 channels, but can I pick and choose which 32 I want to use out of X number of stageboxes?
 
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Jared Koopman said:
Is 2 the limitation? For instance if I was to have 3 stageracks and each located at a different spot on stage to facilitate easy connecting points, will that work? I understand that the mixer is limited to controlling a total of 32 channels, but can I pick and choose which 32 I want to use out of X number of stageboxes?
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You can hook up to six(!) S-16 to one X32, of course you can only use 32 inputs at once.
Christian
 
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Jared Koopman said:
I also see the personal monitor mixer is that correct? How are those working for you?
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Yes, it is hooked up to the InEar system of the guitar player. The Behringer P-16M is similar to the AVIOM stuff, but it has some extra features (like a 3 Band EQ on any of the 16 inputs). You can hook it up directly to the S-16, the P16 signals are embedded in the AES50 stream. I also used the P-16D distributor (underneath the P-16M), cause it sends a powered signal to up to eight P-16M. So you don't need a wallwart to drive your P-16M. I do a lot of shows with Cover- and Top40 Bands, so I'm thinking to buy some of these too. I do one band, that needs 10 monitormixes from the foh desk...so the P-16M for some of the musicians might come in handy:)
Christian
 
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About the delays (yes, all inputs have them). It looks like the delay is pre everything, including pre sends.
Does this mean that the P-16 channels will have the same delay, or can it be configured to have it/not have it?
I'm thinking in-ears for those who will have their instruments delayed to align to the vocals (the most common practice), maybe the drummer in particular that might hear a noticeable delay in his in-ears.
 
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I would assume that it works in a similar way to the Roland M48 where the signal to the IEM can be taken right after the A>D converter and matrixed onto a channel on the pod, or it can be sent through the channel eq etc on the console, if you are doing the latter then you would have to be careful with delays etc. in my experience with the Roland setup there is just enough eq etc on the pod to cope with most signals and you don't have to go through the desk and I assume the X32 has this capability as well. G
 
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Per Søvik said:
About the delays (yes, all inputs have them). It looks like the delay is pre everything, including pre sends.
Does this mean that the P-16 channels will have the same delay, or can it be configured to have it/not have it?
I'm thinking in-ears for those who will have their instruments delayed to align to the vocals (the most common practice), maybe the drummer in particular that might hear a noticeable delay in his in-ears.
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I don't know for sure, but I think it depends on the tap point. Every P-16 signal can be either pre/post fader and pre/post Eq. I don't have a P-16M yet, so I can't confirm it.
Christian
 
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Per Søvik said:
About the delays (yes, all inputs have them). It looks like the delay is pre everything, including pre sends.
Does this mean that the P-16 channels will have the same delay, or can it be configured to have it/not have it?
I'm thinking in-ears for those who will have their instruments delayed to align to the vocals (the most common practice), maybe the drummer in particular that might hear a noticeable delay in his in-ears.
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In my experience, the most common use of input delays is to match the audio of video playback to the latency found in many video projectors or LCD/LED-screens. In this case, having the input delay affect any and all monitors is a good thing.
 
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