Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
Curious if more people agree it's better to not send compressed vocals through foldback?
Curious if more people agree it's better to not send compressed vocals through foldback?
Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
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Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
In almost every case. There may be a reason for exception, but I can't think of it right now.
In almost every case. There may be a reason for exception, but I can't think of it right now.
Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
Heh. Duly noted. Never had a problem in small venues (with comps over inserts) but certainly hate that particular kind of Yamaha desk with the compressor knob built into the channel. More problems than benefits with that for sure!
Heh. Duly noted. Never had a problem in small venues (with comps over inserts) but certainly hate that particular kind of Yamaha desk with the compressor knob built into the channel. More problems than benefits with that for sure!
Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
Chuck,
There are many ways to skin a cat. Check out this YouTube video of one of the veteran cat-skinners in our industry.
Dave Rat - Live Sound Mixing Strategy - YouTube
Chuck,
There are many ways to skin a cat. Check out this YouTube video of one of the veteran cat-skinners in our industry.
Dave Rat - Live Sound Mixing Strategy - YouTube
Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
2 channels for vocals, one comped, one dry, make it simple enough to comp the foh and the keep the singer happy, with the added bonus of more flexibility in in shaping the foh sound.
2 channels for vocals, one comped, one dry, make it simple enough to comp the foh and the keep the singer happy, with the added bonus of more flexibility in in shaping the foh sound.
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I see some of you compress vocal sub-groups. Isn't that a problem with multiple lead vocalists? I have four singers in my group. If I compress all vocals in a sub-group, don't I run a risk of burying backing vocals or even the lead vocal, at times? I have the vocals assigned to a group, but I have a compressor inserted in each vocal channel, instead of the group insert.
I see some of you compress vocal sub-groups. Isn't that a problem with multiple lead vocalists? I have four singers in my group. If I compress all vocals in a sub-group, don't I run a risk of burying backing vocals or even the lead vocal, at times? I have the vocals assigned to a group, but I have a compressor inserted in each vocal channel, instead of the group insert.
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Re: Related Question
With compression on an audio group, the loudest thing in that group will cause the compression. Multi-stage compression isn't a way to mix less, it's a way to mix more effectively. It *will* help you maintain whatever 'ratio' of lead to BGV you want; you just have to bring up the new lead and return the prior lead to BGV level. If you're mixing while playing you might be better off skipping group compression as it does require attention every time you change singers.
With compression on an audio group, the loudest thing in that group will cause the compression. Multi-stage compression isn't a way to mix less, it's a way to mix more effectively. It *will* help you maintain whatever 'ratio' of lead to BGV you want; you just have to bring up the new lead and return the prior lead to BGV level. If you're mixing while playing you might be better off skipping group compression as it does require attention every time you change singers.
If the singers bring it up when they are the lead, and backoff when they a BGV, it works really well.
Just like real music!
Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
The Impossible Dream
If the singers bring it up when they are the lead, and backoff when they a BGV, it works really well.
Just like real music!
The Impossible Dream
Re: Compressor novice... need starting point for rock vocals
I was only using a question to try and direct the conversation. It really doesn't work that well. I've tried it.
If the singers bring it up when they are the lead, and backoff when they a BGV, it works really well.
Just like real music!
I was only using a question to try and direct the conversation. It really doesn't work that well. I've tried it.
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Heh.
One of the band's I mix is excellent at this! It's truly a joy to work with them! They make ME look good.
Others, not so much....