David Karol

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Cole Lofink said:
So how are we going to turn this into some kind of review, before Bennett moves this to the basement? We have at least another day since he's on "Vacation", something I didn't know that existed in months that didn't end in EMBER.

Also thanks again to Jason Dermer for sending us all out to this gig, as you can tell we all had a great time. Ever stage sounded excellent all day. Even system 4 which many of you would label as the “under dog” of the group sound excellent, due to the talent running it. I never once walked over, heard a band and though, that more PA or a “nicer” PA would achieve better results.
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I guess you guys are just beat on the ice cream. You should have been there the past few years, I guess the thought of 6 sound guys all under the age of 25 trying to catch up with the Hawiian Shirted One's (ahem) presence scared the Stone Cold folks away.

More on David Karol later, including photos of the shipping packaging and tour case. But in the meantime, though you guys did manage to let the smoke out of one of the JBLs and Jojo is a fine engineer, they are not exactly Mpros. The system was abandoned with Asbury Audio in a pretty sad state of disrepair by a band with no money (is that redundant :) ), so in the interest of adding a nice but cheap bar PA to inventory, what you saw and heard was an Eminence loaded, DDS horned, internally braced and reglued, Macrotech powered, DBX processed, Frankensteined from stuff around the shop system that will run with a nice SRX system of similar size but cost us not much more than some build/tuning time and digging around in the warehouse for parts.

Also, the first lights on the 618s and 103d are power, signal, and 6db from limiting. Though that setup is one of our sidefill rigs for larger stages, are you guys really surprised that 80k worth of touring level gear could eclipse nice MI and entry pro level gear? :)
 
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Thanks Jason -Also forgot to mention David (aka Magellan) had the easiest day of all of us. out of 8 bands 5 acoustic acts 1 rapper facing a stage with 5 metal and 4 pop acts the acoustic metal acoustic metal transition was entertaining to say the least. Still he managed to have the best looking eq for a sampler I have ever seen. Gotta love the tracs 16 yr old kids make using standard computer speakers!
all and all
systems 1 & 4 - 1
systems 2 & 3 - 0
 
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Jason Dermer said:
I guess you guys are just beat on the ice cream. You should have been there the past few years, I guess the thought of 6 sound guys all under the age of 25 trying to catch up with the Hawiian Shirted One's (ahem) presence scared the Stone Cold folks away.

:)
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Disclaimer: I just turned 25 a couple of months ago. It's getting tough being the old guy on the crew...LOL
 
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Jason Dermer said:
Also, the first lights on the 618s and 103d are power, signal, and 6db from limiting.
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J, those red lights are not 6dB from limit, but they will indicate at any limiting whatsoever. .1dB, 1dB, who knows. Ales says they indicate that you are "leaving the linear operation range of the loudspeaker". As you and I know there is probably 6dB or more "left" after those lights start to flash, but that is the nature of a power limiter.
 
jojo vitagliano said:
Thanks Jason -Also forgot to mention David (aka Magellan) had the easiest day of all of us. out of 8 bands 5 acoustic acts 1 rapper facing a stage with 5 metal and 4 pop acts the acoustic metal acoustic metal transition was entertaining to say the least. Still he managed to have the best looking eq for a sampler I have ever seen. Gotta love the tracs 16 yr old kids make using standard computer speakers!
all and all
systems 1 & 4 - 1
systems 2 & 3 - 0
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But JoJo, my stage blew yours away!
 
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Bennett Prescott said:
J, those red lights are not 6dB from limit, but they will indicate at any limiting whatsoever. .1dB, 1dB, who knows. Ales says they indicate that you are "leaving the linear operation range of the loudspeaker". As you and I know there is probably 6dB or more "left" after those lights start to flash, but that is the nature of a power limiter.
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So what about the 4th LED? I was once told the second red LED indicates full on limiting. Correct? Where exactly in the chain does the limiting go to work; incoming signal or outgoing power?
 
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jojo vitagliano said:
Thanks Jason -Also forgot to mention David (aka Magellan) had the easiest day of all of us. out of 8 bands 5 acoustic acts 1 rapper facing a stage with 5 metal and 4 pop acts the acoustic metal acoustic metal transition was entertaining to say the least. Still he managed to have the best looking eq for a sampler I have ever seen. Gotta love the tracs 16 yr old kids make using standard computer speakers!
all and all
systems 1 & 4 - 1
systems 2 & 3 - 0
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Yes, that was a lovely +20db low shelf there David, haha!

You would think it would bass heavy, as the kids would overcompensate for the lack of low end in desktop speakers.
 
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Brett Smith said:
So what about the 4th LED? I was once told the second red LED indicates full on limiting. Correct? Where exactly in the chain does the limiting go to work; incoming signal or outgoing power?
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On ADRaudio subwoofers both red LEDs indicate limiting simultaneously. The opto limiter is in the input stage, before the power amps. It is strictly a long term power limiter, excursion limiting is accomplished with amp size and protective HPF.
 
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True, I absolutly love the piss out of all the ADR stuff and Im blessed to get to mix on them every so often. Ive always wanted to learn more about them though.
 
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