GLD80 Discussion

I had my GLD lock up today. I was configuring it for an upcoming gig.
First, the screen stopped responding (or actually got very slow to respond - then stopped). The desk was still passing audio. Then, the other controls got slow - mute a channel and it took several seconds to happen. Then I noticed that the channel meters stopped responding. I could not tell if audio still passed as I had muted the inputs.

I did have a lot going on and was flipping through pages trying to figure some things out with audio routing in through the 24x12 box and out through the 8x4 box with 2 iPads connected and audio being routed out through Dante as well.

I did note that before this all happened I was seeing very slow response on the iPad when selecting a strip or mix to set aux levels. The 2 iPads were gen 3 & 4 so plenty fast.

Anyone else seen this?

I had latest firmware as of 3 weeks ago.

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Rob Spence said:
I had my GLD lock up today. I was configuring it for an upcoming gig.
First, the screen stopped responding (or actually got very slow to respond - then stopped). The desk was still passing audio. Then, the other controls got slow - mute a channel and it took several seconds to happen. Then I noticed that the channel meters stopped responding. I could not tell if audio still passed as I had muted the inputs.

I did have a lot going on and was flipping through pages trying to figure some things out with audio routing in through the 24x12 box and out through the 8x4 box with 2 iPads connected and audio being routed out through Dante as well.

I did note that before this all happened I was seeing very slow response on the iPad when selecting a strip or mix to set aux levels. The 2 iPads were gen 3 & 4 so plenty fast.

Anyone else seen this?

I had latest firmware as of 3 weeks ago.

Sent from my iPad HD
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Once during a sermon I had the surface go completely unresponsive (but continue to pass audio) while I was tweaking EQ on the pastor's headset mic. As long as it was passing audio I didn't see any point in doing anything foolish with the console, and about a minute later it started responding and continued as though nothing had happened.

This was quite some time ago--definitely pre-ipad, and possibly even v1.0-series firmware.
 
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I have only had one lock up and it was whilst I was changing the console configuration - i.e. swapping 2 mono auxes for a stereo one. The touchscreen locked up and did not come back live. Audio was also passing though the desk at this point, although it was not during a show.

The setup was with one 24x12 and 2 8x4 boxes, one linked to the 24 which was on a 100m line and the other 8x4 was on a separate 100m line which was regular cheapie cat5e. I had also slacked and not setup the console with the UPS as it was just a config time. Firmware was one version behind the latest. It has since been upgraded.

I have yet to have a problem with a show setup on a UPS with A&H approved cables to the stage boxes.

Overall I think it was just the process of changing the whole routing of the console while audio was passing through - and this was also a very full patch. Every input and most of the outputs were in use.

-Gareth
 
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Rob,

I've found it helpful to periodically clear the log. I don't have one in front of me, but if memory serves it's setup/memory/utilities. One of the more recent firmware updates set a max size limit to the log, but I've still fixed excessively long boot up times by clearing out the log.

Another thought is that, using Avid's, the iPad control is via VNC and really slows down the console, including meters. I've also experienced similar symptoms on Yamaha's using Studio Manager over wireless before the iPad days. It may be worthwhile to see if you can narrow down the sluggishness to the iPad connections and attack the problem from an IT perspective.

I have two GLD systems and really enjoy them. For anyone reading a long and questioning the platform, I'd say that every system will have problems in one way or another at some point, especially when you start adding on 3rd party networking devices, etc. I think if you get enough experience on any platform you'll find a chink in the armor somewhere. I've used just about every platform and wouldn't hesitate to buy the A&H's again for the job I'm asking them to do. Also, the support from our rep has been great, very quick and knowledgeable. They've also been quick to call up England and get back to me when I stump them or have a suggestion for the next version.

thomas d.
 
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Notes from the (way too early!) webinar:

-GLD editor interface looks pretty much like the GLD surface so should be really nice for training the UI of the console off-line.

-Editor available for free (yay!)

-Editor can set up show files off-line or connect to the GLD and control it live. Up to sixteen instances of remote control (editor and iPad apps) can connect to the console at one time.

-Editor runs on OS X (sorry, wasn't paying attention to versions... not a Mac user) and Windows (32-bit XP, Vista, 7 and 8, 64-bit 7 and 8). My laptop's running 64-bit Vista so this makes me a little bit less than happy.

-In Windows 8, the editor is a "desktop mode" app, which I take to mean that the UI is better suited to mouse/keyboard than the touchscreen of a tablet.

-GLD editor and V1.3 firmware to ship next week. No specifics on release date for V1.3 of the iPad apps (V1.2 apps will not be compatible with V1.3 firmware) but I'd presume the timing will be similar to the V1.2 upgrade, with the apps available shortly after the firmware ships..

-New features in 1.3: Digital trim can now be ganged, and mix buses can now be routed to input processing channels or direct inputs of mix buses. They didn't spend a ton of time discussing new features so it's possible there will be a few other goodies in there.

-There was also a pretty comprehensive walkthrough of the ME-U hub for the ME personal mixing system, which is starting to ship. There's a web interface to monitor status or edit channel names over a network, which looks like it should be handy when using protocols that don't include channel names (i.e., anything other than Dsnake).

Overall, I'd say the editor looks like a solid effort. I was hoping to see better Windows 8 touchscreen functionality so I could rationalize buying a new touchscreen laptop, but maybe I'll just have to let go of my irrational antipathy toward Apple and get an iPad instead...
 
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Jeff Carter said:
Notes from the (way too early!) webinar:

-GLD editor interface looks pretty much like the GLD surface so should be really nice for training the UI of the console off-line.

-Editor available for free (yay!)

-Editor can set up show files off-line or connect to the GLD and control it live. Up to sixteen instances of remote control (editor and iPad apps) can connect to the console at one time.

-Editor runs on OS X (sorry, wasn't paying attention to versions... not a Mac user) and Windows (32-bit XP, Vista, 7 and 8, 64-bit 7 and 8). My laptop's running 64-bit Vista so this makes me a little bit less than happy.

-In Windows 8, the editor is a "desktop mode" app, which I take to mean that the UI is better suited to mouse/keyboard than the touchscreen of a tablet.

-GLD editor and V1.3 firmware to ship next week. No specifics on release date for V1.3 of the iPad apps (V1.2 apps will not be compatible with V1.3 firmware) but I'd presume the timing will be similar to the V1.2 upgrade, with the apps available shortly after the firmware ships..

-New features in 1.3: Digital trim can now be ganged, and mix buses can now be routed to input processing channels or direct inputs of mix buses. They didn't spend a ton of time discussing new features so it's possible there will be a few other goodies in there.

-There was also a pretty comprehensive walkthrough of the ME-U hub for the ME personal mixing system, which is starting to ship. There's a web interface to monitor status or edit channel names over a network, which looks like it should be handy when using protocols that don't include channel names (i.e., anything other than Dsnake).

Overall, I'd say the editor looks like a solid effort. I was hoping to see better Windows 8 touchscreen functionality so I could rationalize buying a new touchscreen laptop, but maybe I'll just have to let go of my irrational antipathy toward Apple and get an iPad instead...
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I am waiting for the Webinar to start here in the US (at 11am EST)
From what you say, the editor sounds good.
 
So, questions on scenes.

I am asking not because I won't take the time to figure it out but I have limited time before the next gig (and first with the GLD) and am configuring it as fast as I learn.

So, what I would like to do is have a scene for each time slot at the festival and just load the scribble strips (words and colors) and maybe the mutes.
Hints to set it up?


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Rob Spence said:
So, questions on scenes.

I am asking not because I won't take the time to figure it out but I have limited time before the next gig (and first with the GLD) and am configuring it as fast as I learn.

So, what I would like to do is have a scene for each time slot at the festival and just load the scribble strips (words and colors) and maybe the mutes.
Hints to set it up?


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Spend some quality time with the recall filters. Work out what board settings you will want to recall at each scene change and block absolutely everything else (I especially recommend blocking any changes to i/o patching and FX routing unless you are *really* sure that's what you want...)

I'd recommend setting up a dummy scene first, tweak the recall filter until you've blocked everything but the parameters you want to recall, then copy that scene (with recall filter) into a bunch of open slots. Then you can store your settings for each band in its appropriate slot. Note that renaming a slot does NOT store the scene, and deleting a scene from its slot will also wipe out the associated scene recall filter (filters are also stored scene-by-scene).
 
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Rob Spence said:
So, questions on scenes.

I am asking not because I won't take the time to figure it out but I have limited time before the next gig (and first with the GLD) and am configuring it as fast as I learn.

So, what I would like to do is have a scene for each time slot at the festival and just load the scribble strips (words and colors) and maybe the mutes.
Hints to set it up?


Sent from my iPad HD
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Come up with a show file with your initial setup - I/O patching, effects, etc. Save default channel name parts such as kick, snare, LVoc, BVoc, in those white spaces so you can recall quickly. Save this as your default show so you don't have to start from scratch for every gig.

I've gone to starting my drum patch on channel 13, leaving the top page of inputs for things I touch more often. If you have a starting patch like that, you can go ahead and name the channels.

When I did a festival (I used the GLD for monitors - FOH was an M7), I over-did the number of channels - 6 vocals, 3 electrics, etc. I did this to be covered for everything and to match the FOH patch, but I later decided that it was worth the couple seconds to collapse the number of channels in use to fit on 2 pages of the left bank rather than 3.

For whatever reason I haven't done much with scenes, but rather show files for different groups.
 
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Rob Spence said:
So, can I take FX5-8 sends/returns and just repatch to the XLRs on the 8x4 box?
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Not sure if you can do that with FX buses or not (I have a vague recollection that FX buses don't count toward the 20 mix bus limit because they're internal to the console). You could certainly take four post-fade auxes out to the external FX and return them on four input channels, though.
 
TJ Cornish said:
Come up with a show file with your initial setup - I/O patching, effects, etc. Save default channel name parts such as kick, snare, LVoc, BVoc, in those white spaces so you can recall quickly. Save this as your default show so you don't have to start from scratch for every gig.

I've gone to starting my drum patch on channel 13, leaving the top page of inputs for things I touch more often. If you have a starting patch like that, you can go ahead and name the channels.

When I did a festival (I used the GLD for monitors - FOH was an M7), I over-did the number of channels - 6 vocals, 3 electrics, etc. I did this to be covered for everything and to match the FOH patch, but I later decided that it was worth the couple seconds to collapse the number of channels in use to fit on 2 pages of the left bank rather than 3.

For whatever reason I haven't done much with scenes, but rather show files for different groups.
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I haven't used scenes much on my LS9. A console file per band and I save a new scene each time I do the band.
I expect it will be the same with the GLD except I thought preloading the scribble strips for the festival would save a little time at changeover.

I expect to have the input lists for most all before the gig so I can trim the channels if I need.

Any thoughts on the external FX patching?



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TJ Cornish said:
I think it should work, but haven't tried it.
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I don't think it will work. I think FX sends and returns are for internal use only. He will need to use an aux and input channel to get an external FX in and out. I could be wrong, but I'm pretty much that's the limitation of the 20 mix buses + 8 free FX buses.

thomas d.
 
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I am having trouble with the iPad app.

I may be going about this all wrong but the latency and difficulty in selecting things is nuts compared to Stagemix,
For example, I want to adjust a monitor send. I can't see any way to do it in the processing tab. So, I use the Routing Tab, right? I cannot reliably "click" on the mix button (oh, and it seems that mix has to be in the bottom pane?).

Am I missing something? Some user trick?
 
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