JBL PRX600 opinions

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Evan Kirkendall said:
I went to Guitar Center and played with them this weekend. The wedge angle is the killer for me. Everything else is great about the boxes. I'll probably still pick up a few to replace my aging SRM's, but they won't be taking over wedge duty any time soon.
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Evan,
I have a bunch of the 615M's, and have been very happy with them. I agree, the wedge angle is stupid (the 612M is even worse), but it is trivially easy to use some "audio wood" (AKA piece of painted 2x4 or similar) for the circumstances where you need to change the angle. It doesn't quite compare to a touring grade wedge, but is certainly good enough for most applications, and I have had many many many compliments on them - muso's looooooooove them, and with some EQ it is easy to get them loud enough that people want you to turn it down.

Silas has (or had) something like 8 of them for sale at a good price. There are other boxes I like better as a wedge, but none of them are anywhere near the same price range or have the same ability to impress the band via the old JBL bias.

I have traditionally not been much of a JBL fan, but this was not a bad move for me.
 
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Scott LaRochelle said:
Dude really? lol
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Ironically he makes the original point about why not to go with RCF as rental boxes. Most of the rentals will be to guys like this that don't know RCF is a major brand and high quality because it's just not found much in the states.

Until recently my entire PA was RCF. I just switched my FOH to FBT (Vertus). Also, FWIW, for all you "hobbiests" out there that don't know RCF, the 310A and 312A are largely undiscovered gems. A few years ago now RCF slashed the price on these boxes as they moved on to the 400 series, but decided to keep these 2 models around. Recently they changed the amps (lighter) and the woofers (from neo back to ferrite), but the result is still the same quality and weight at a price that, IMO, is the best bang for the buck in an upper level MI speaker.

For those unfamiliar with the company, here's some history of RCF.....

- They've been around since 1949
- They were one of the first to use injection molded "plastic" boxes
- They were one of the first, if not the first, to produce "mass market" active cabinets (1996)
- Mackie acquired RCF in 1998. Soon after the Mackie branded SRM450 came to be. The early 450's look to be essentially RCF active boxes in a different cabinet design. in the early 2000's, facing tough times, RCF was spun off and manufacturing moved to China and RCF drivers were no longer used in the boxes.

From the Mackie SRM450 manual
"Mackie Designs' entry into the sound reinforcement loudspeaker market began with the acquisition, in June of 1998, of Radio Cine Foriture (RCF), headquartered in Reggio Emilia, Italy. RCF has a long tradition in developing speaker technology for the high-end pro audio market."
 
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Sean Zurbrick said:
Ironically he makes the original point about why not to go with RCF as rental boxes. Most of the rentals will be to guys like this that don't know RCF is a major brand and high quality because it's just not found much in the states.

Until recently my entire PA was RCF. I just switched my FOH to FBT (Vertus). Also, FWIW, for all you "hobbiests" out there that don't know RCF, the 310A and 312A are largely undiscovered gems. A few years ago now RCF slashed the price on these boxes as they moved on to the 400 series, but decided to keep these 2 models around. Recently they changed the amps (lighter) and the woofers (from neo back to ferrite), but the result is still the same quality and weight at a price that, IMO, is the best bang for the buck in an upper level MI speaker.

For those unfamiliar with the company, here's some history of RCF.....

- They've been around since 1949
- They were one of the first to use injection molded "plastic" boxes
- They were one of the first, if not the first, to produce "mass market" active cabinets (1996)
- Mackie acquired RCF in 1998. Soon after the Mackie branded SRM450 came to be. The early 450's look to be essentially RCF active boxes in a different cabinet design. in the early 2000's, facing tough times, RCF was spun off and manufacturing moved to China and RCF drivers were no longer used in the boxes.

From the Mackie SRM450 manual
"Mackie Designs' entry into the sound reinforcement loudspeaker market began with the acquisition, in June of 1998, of Radio Cine Foriture (RCF), headquartered in Reggio Emilia, Italy. RCF has a long tradition in developing speaker technology for the high-end pro audio market."
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I bet if you ask owners of Hyundai's, they will also tell you that a Hyundai is just as good as a Lexus. I have heard RCF self powered boxes, they are not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not as bad as Carvin, but still pretty uninspiring. I have never been impressed with any of the manufacturers which OEM through RCF, sorry. A better product in every one of those categories can be named from a competitor who does not use RCF. People who were duped into buying the "Hyundai of audio" cannot possibly have an unbiased truthful opinion about their purchase, even if it does suck. They are stuck with it, and misery loves company.
 
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I have 4 of the 612s... IMO a fantastic box. Perfectly matched to the 618XLF. They scale well, very smooth response, light, durable and name recognition. But as stated before, worthless as a monitor (I use MRX512s for wedges).
 
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Tim Duffin said:
I bet if you ask owners of Hyundai's, they will also tell you that a Hyundai is just as good as a Lexus. I have heard RCF self powered boxes, they are not the greatest thing since sliced bread. Not as bad as Carvin, but still pretty uninspiring. I have never been impressed with any of the manufacturers which OEM through RCF, sorry. A better product in every one of those categories can be named from a competitor who does not use RCF. People who were duped into buying the "Hyundai of audio" cannot possibly have an unbiased truthful opinion about their purchase, even if it does suck. They are stuck with it, and misery loves company.
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Hyundai? What? I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Frankly I'm agreeing with you in that RCF is probably not a good choice for a rental box because most people don't know RCF in the states. Your original post about them called them an "off brand" and that's silly. Unknown here, sure I'll give you that, but in Europe they are an extremely common brand. Case in point. Go to Thomann Cyberstore, an online UK music store. A search shows they sell roughly 200 products with the RCF name and 200 with the JBL name.

It seems now you're not only calling RCF and off brand, but an inferior product and those that buy RCF are being "duped"... seriously? duped?
 
Sean Zurbrick said:
Hyundai? What? I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Frankly I'm agreeing with you in that RCF is probably not a good choice for a rental box because most people don't know RCF in the states. Your original post about them called them an "off brand" and that's silly. Unknown here, sure I'll give you that, but in Europe they are an extremely common brand. Case in point. Go to Thomann Cyberstore, an online UK music store. A search shows they sell roughly 200 products with the RCF name and 200 with the JBL name.

It seems now you're not only calling RCF and off brand, but an inferior product and those that buy RCF are being "duped"... seriously? duped?
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Just add him to your ignore list and stop feeding the troll.

Sent from my neural implant
 
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Sean Zurbrick said:
Hyundai? What? I honestly don't know how to respond to this. Frankly I'm agreeing with you in that RCF is probably not a good choice for a rental box because most people don't know RCF in the states. Your original post about them called them an "off brand" and that's silly. Unknown here, sure I'll give you that, but in Europe they are an extremely common brand. Case in point. Go to Thomann Cyberstore, an online UK music store. A search shows they sell roughly 200 products with the RCF name and 200 with the JBL name.

It seems now you're not only calling RCF and off brand, but an inferior product and those that buy RCF are being "duped"... seriously? duped?
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Well, I have heard their self powered boxes on many occasions, some side by side next to mccauley, bassmaxx, d&b, turbo, JBL etc. In your opinion, what does RCF have that no other company has which makes them superior? I am in agreement that many people do buy them in other places besides the U.S.

BTW- most online sound nerds cry and yell bloody murder when I post anything critical about anything. Strangely, this never happens in the real world...
 
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