I've heard this from a couple of people now and found this when doing a quick search for used ones. One source cites the availability of neodymium magnets. Anyone have any info on possible replacements from JBL? JBL SRX725 Speaker Cabinet
JBL SRX Discontinued.
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Silas Pradetto
Graduate Student
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
Considering I'm a JBL dealer and speak regularly with the rep, and I haven't heard any such thing, I think that website made a mistake.
There is no discontinuation of JBL SRX as far as I'm aware.
Considering I'm a JBL dealer and speak regularly with the rep, and I haven't heard any such thing, I think that website made a mistake.
There is no discontinuation of JBL SRX as far as I'm aware.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
This was discussed elsewhere. The SRX line will continue with changes to model numbers and transducers. Because of model line re-alignment and the new VTX line array, the 728 will not be back in its current form or number, and another model is said to not come back. This will also cause the VerTec 4880 and 4880A subs to be phased out as well.
Inventory orders for big-box web/mail order shops were cut off by JBL in January to avoid massive product dumping. Smaller retailers will be able to order most SRX models indefinitely, some models will be end-of-life by July.
This was discussed elsewhere. The SRX line will continue with changes to model numbers and transducers. Because of model line re-alignment and the new VTX line array, the 728 will not be back in its current form or number, and another model is said to not come back. This will also cause the VerTec 4880 and 4880A subs to be phased out as well.
Inventory orders for big-box web/mail order shops were cut off by JBL in January to avoid massive product dumping. Smaller retailers will be able to order most SRX models indefinitely, some models will be end-of-life by July.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
There is not a neodymium availability problem. There was neodymium price inflation, which has largely settled down to about 2.5x as much as it used to cost. This cost is still somewhat being absorbed, at least by B&C, and the folks that need neo (read: speakers that go in the air) are capable of paying the increase. The cost of neodymium will likely continue to go down, but it is unlikely to ever return to approximate parity with that of ceramic. What this really means is that designs that used neo because it cost about the same as ceramic are being re-evaluated and many re-designed around ceramic motor woofers. Designs that require the weight (read: big woofers that go in the air or get moved a lot) or density (read: high performance compression drivers) are staying with neodymium which, again, we have no problem getting.
There is not a neodymium availability problem. There was neodymium price inflation, which has largely settled down to about 2.5x as much as it used to cost. This cost is still somewhat being absorbed, at least by B&C, and the folks that need neo (read: speakers that go in the air) are capable of paying the increase. The cost of neodymium will likely continue to go down, but it is unlikely to ever return to approximate parity with that of ceramic. What this really means is that designs that used neo because it cost about the same as ceramic are being re-evaluated and many re-designed around ceramic motor woofers. Designs that require the weight (read: big woofers that go in the air or get moved a lot) or density (read: high performance compression drivers) are staying with neodymium which, again, we have no problem getting.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
I should have been more specific by saying that the current line of SRX is being discontinued, not the entire series. So if ultimately cost is the issue for JBL, we will probably see ceramic versions of some or all of the SRX?
I should have been more specific by saying that the current line of SRX is being discontinued, not the entire series. So if ultimately cost is the issue for JBL, we will probably see ceramic versions of some or all of the SRX?
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
It's probably that retailer discontinuing the SRX line, not JBL.
JBL would release a new line before it discontinued a popular line.
It's probably that retailer discontinuing the SRX line, not JBL.
JBL would release a new line before it discontinued a popular line.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
I would hope not... I currently have SRX in my inventory and that would make me start looking at other speaker lines/manufactures.
I would hope not... I currently have SRX in my inventory and that would make me start looking at other speaker lines/manufactures.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
The flying SRX boxes are the ones being discontinued, the ones with the "F" suffix. You can still order them from JBL until the end of the month.
The flying SRX boxes are the ones being discontinued, the ones with the "F" suffix. You can still order them from JBL until the end of the month.
Silas Pradetto
Graduate Student
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
OK I spoke with JBL today and got the real story.
1. JBL cannot continue to afford to build neo drivers for SRX boxes. The cost of neo has gone up so much that to keep the boxes profitable they'd have to raise the price of the boxes significantly, pricing them out of their market tier.
2. SRX has NOT been discontinued, yet. They have only suspended MAP on them, so you may seem them being blown out online.
3. There is word that JBL is going to introduce a new SRX replacement this summer using traditional magnets.
4. Only after the new series is introduced might SRX be discontinued.
5. SRX boxes will likely always be available through the custom shop at a significant price premium.
OK I spoke with JBL today and got the real story.
1. JBL cannot continue to afford to build neo drivers for SRX boxes. The cost of neo has gone up so much that to keep the boxes profitable they'd have to raise the price of the boxes significantly, pricing them out of their market tier.
2. SRX has NOT been discontinued, yet. They have only suspended MAP on them, so you may seem them being blown out online.
3. There is word that JBL is going to introduce a new SRX replacement this summer using traditional magnets.
4. Only after the new series is introduced might SRX be discontinued.
5. SRX boxes will likely always be available through the custom shop at a significant price premium.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
Hi Silas,
What I posted is almost verbatim what a Harman/JBL rep told dealers in Ohio yesterday. Different elements of the same real story, I guess.
Hi Silas,
What I posted is almost verbatim what a Harman/JBL rep told dealers in Ohio yesterday. Different elements of the same real story, I guess.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
The EON line is the same story. JBL has neo all over their product lines, so I don't see how the neo argument as described in this thread only relates to SRX.
The EON line is the same story. JBL has neo all over their product lines, so I don't see how the neo argument as described in this thread only relates to SRX.
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The PRX600 series uses neo but I see the new PRX400 series does not. That fact is reflected in the increased weight. Interesting!
The PRX600 series uses neo but I see the new PRX400 series does not. That fact is reflected in the increased weight. Interesting!
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Do you think this will affect the VRX line as well? Specifically the VRX918/VRX915 since its practilly the same as the SRX718/SRX715? I actually wouldn't be opposed to the ideal of merging the two lines under the VRX Series, then keep the flying versions and discontinue the non flying versions. Then they can continue to offer then and at a higher price point to justify the neo (rather than a custom shop item).
If not the above do you buy SRX now while you still can? Or is the SRX replacement going to be "better" yet heavier??
Do you think this will affect the VRX line as well? Specifically the VRX918/VRX915 since its practilly the same as the SRX718/SRX715? I actually wouldn't be opposed to the ideal of merging the two lines under the VRX Series, then keep the flying versions and discontinue the non flying versions. Then they can continue to offer then and at a higher price point to justify the neo (rather than a custom shop item).
If not the above do you buy SRX now while you still can? Or is the SRX replacement going to be "better" yet heavier??
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Dale Christenson
Freshman
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
Would one of you guys please tell me the benefit of neo magnets over ceramic or traditional magnets?
Would one of you guys please tell me the benefit of neo magnets over ceramic or traditional magnets?
Dale Christenson
Freshman
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
He'll be here all week, folks.
You can learn about neodymium magnets at Wikipedia, but the primary factor is that a very strong magnetic field can be delivered exactly where the designer wants it. The big performance/small package allows designers placement freedom they would not have with larger, heavier magnets.
He'll be here all week, folks.
You can learn about neodymium magnets at Wikipedia, but the primary factor is that a very strong magnetic field can be delivered exactly where the designer wants it. The big performance/small package allows designers placement freedom they would not have with larger, heavier magnets.
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
I wonder if there will be a noticable difference in sound quality between the newer and older models? I can see that being a real problem for people who are looking to add another set of tops to "match" their extisting cabs.
I wonder if there will be a noticable difference in sound quality between the newer and older models? I can see that being a real problem for people who are looking to add another set of tops to "match" their extisting cabs.
Silas Pradetto
Graduate Student
Re: JBL SRX Discontinued.
There should be plenty on the used market for the foreseeable future - and the original SRX Neo boxes will always be available via the custom shop.
There should be plenty on the used market for the foreseeable future - and the original SRX Neo boxes will always be available via the custom shop.