SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

Re: SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

It will only do 96Khz, which is a real problem if the rest of the studio works at 48 Khz. Also no connectivity to the C200 C-SB stageboxes, as they ru 48 Khz, unless you samplerateconvert the MADI.
 
The studio market has been slow/no growth for years.. While the live SR is not exactly hot as a firecracker any new incremental business for SSL is more sales, and it's not that much of a stretch these days.

JR

Nice wording, JR.

I was actually wondering for some time now (since the mid 90s), why SSL was not jumping on the live market.

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Just about every desk has that. What Brian meant was that when one of the techs calls up a cue on their desk where the theatre goes very dark, the lighting on the desk can be programmed to follow, so that the techs/surrounding audience members aren't blinded by the desk lights/screens. Much like your smart phone does when you're using it in a dark bedroom, for instance, but with the SSL desks you get to program exactly when it happens. Clearer now?:)

Oh wow - I get it now!
 
Re: SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

Just about every desk has that. What Brian meant was that when one of the techs calls up a cue on their desk where the theatre goes very dark, the lighting on the desk can be programmed to follow, so that the techs/surrounding audience members aren't blinded by the desk lights/screens. Much like your smart phone does when you're using it in a dark bedroom, for instance, but with the SSL desks you get to program exactly when it happens. Clearer now?:)
I remember an operator being pissed about this "feature" on his Vi6 (which he admitted he still wasn't completely familiar with yet) that programmed dims couldn't be overridden or have different presets depending on where you were playing. Indoors/theater/outdoors, all needing different lighting levels... Now whether that was true or not, I don't know, since I'm not too familiar with the operation of the Vi either.
 
Re: SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

To me, it boils down to the fact that VENUE/Pro Tools is(was) a software platform vs SSL is a "tone".

The VENUE platform is based around the idea that if you do nothing its going to be "clean". Clean sounding EQ's, clean preamps, clean compressors/gates etc. If you want to add some sonic flavor you have a huge selection of choices from established plugin manufacturers.... a lot of artists already own and love a lot of these plugins.

I think the SSL will be more in line with the Midas line in that it has its own sonic character.
According to the info on their web site, the "tone" in their EQ section can be turned on and off. Want that SSL sound? You can have it. Want a "normal" parametric EQ? You can have that too...
 
Re: SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

According to the info on their web site, the "tone" in their EQ section can be turned on and off. Want that SSL sound? You can have it. Want a "normal" parametric EQ? You can have that too...

I hope this doesn't burst any bubbles, but boost/cut EQ will sound subjectively different with different control laws and different Q/BW shapes. It seems very logical to provide an EQ setting or settings to mimic a legacy console EQ that people like. EQ is one of the things that can and do sound different between consoles.

I am still discouraged by the the lack of a concise definition for Q/BW so this legacy SSL EQ shape can not easily be communicated into a different generic platform. While a full parametric can cover the EQ, it may not track the same for boost/cut changes requiring re-tweaking Q/BW settings vs. boost/cut to get the same exact sound in use.

JR
 
I hope this doesn't burst any bubbles, but boost/cut EQ will sound subjectively different with different control laws and different Q/BW shapes. It seems very logical to provide an EQ setting or settings to mimic a legacy console EQ that people like. EQ is one of the things that can and do sound different between consoles.

I am still discouraged by the the lack of a concise definition for Q/BW so this legacy SSL EQ shape can not easily be communicated into a different generic platform. While a full parametric can cover the EQ, it may not track the same for boost/cut changes requiring re-tweaking Q/BW settings vs. boost/cut to get the same exact sound in use.

JR

Exactly. So is it sound or UI?
Given you have enough time and input parameters it should be possible to mimic every trademark eq sound with every other eq.

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I got to see this in person today. It looks great and I'm hoping to spend some time tomorrow playing with it.

The multi touch screen is handy.

Still trying to wrap my head around the stem channels. Maybe it's just the nomenclature throwing me off.

The ability to drag and drop the channel process order is pretty cool.

Jared
 
Re: SSL jumping into Live sound market with big digital console

I've seen it. I've heard it. I've touched it. I loved it.

Upon my cursory observation, it's got a TON of nifty features and if it ultimately sounds like an SSL should I imagine a lot of folks will want to explore it very deeply. I know I will.

Sadly, it has to do more than sound good to work for us. I'm excited for a demo, which I think is in the works, but tempering that a bit until it proves capable of a large scale musical. I'll try to chime in as soon as we get a chance to dig around a little.