What Happens if...
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Hold this, and put your foot in that puddle...
-C
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Hold this, and put your foot in that puddle...
-C
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Didn't your mamma tell you not to touch things that you do not know what they are?
Of course that is how we learn.
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Didn't your mamma tell you not to touch things that you do not know what they are?
Of course that is how we learn.
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Haha I proudly hold a couple of those... who doesn't learn better by trial and error* (were talking simple things not rigging)
Haha I proudly hold a couple of those... who doesn't learn better by trial and error* (were talking simple things not rigging)
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Touching the black wire is not as bad as using your teeth as a wire stripper and finding out the circuit is live
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Had an old friend who did that, the AC didn't hurt him (much..), but just found out alcohol eventually killed him.
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Touching the black wire is not as bad as using your teeth as a wire stripper and finding out the circuit is live
Had an old friend who did that, the AC didn't hurt him (much..), but just found out alcohol eventually killed him.
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Back in school we had a guy who on every monday morning would lick his fingers and grab ahold of the 2nd anode of a TV set. Black and White-he didn't want to do color sets as they were about 10Kv higher.
He was one of the most happy-easy going guys you would ever meet. I don't know if the morning shocks did it or not-but he claimed they helped.
To each his own.
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Touching the black wire is not as bad as using your teeth as a wire stripper and finding out the circuit is live.
Had an old friend who did that, the AC didn't hurt him (much..), but just found out alcohol eventually killed him.
Back in school we had a guy who on every monday morning would lick his fingers and grab ahold of the 2nd anode of a TV set. Black and White-he didn't want to do color sets as they were about 10Kv higher.
He was one of the most happy-easy going guys you would ever meet. I don't know if the morning shocks did it or not-but he claimed they helped.
To each his own.
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Do pro level wires come in a color other than black? Or are you talking about the connector? I guess then it would depend on what the other end is connected to.
Do pro level wires come in a color other than black? Or are you talking about the connector? I guess then it would depend on what the other end is connected to.
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The jackets on a three phase run will, if not black, generally be Black, Red, Blue, White, and Green. The cam connectors will have those colors though. Then opening up the jacket of any of your AC cables, chances are you'll see Black, White, and Green.
The jackets on a three phase run will, if not black, generally be Black, Red, Blue, White, and Green. The cam connectors will have those colors though. Then opening up the jacket of any of your AC cables, chances are you'll see Black, White, and Green.
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Long ago in my padawan days I got shocked by touching the white wire.
I was troubleshooting a problem in my house (wire slipped out of a wire nut), and some device was plugged into the circuit in question. The loose wire was on the return path (white), so I assumed I was OK to work on the circuit live (stupid ASSumption), and when I was sticking the wire back in the nut, I completed the circuit with my fingers.
That was the last time I assumed anything about electricity.
I now carry a non-contact tester, VOM, and occasionally 1K par can to any questionable electrical situation.
Long ago in my padawan days I got shocked by touching the white wire.
I was troubleshooting a problem in my house (wire slipped out of a wire nut), and some device was plugged into the circuit in question. The loose wire was on the return path (white), so I assumed I was OK to work on the circuit live (stupid ASSumption), and when I was sticking the wire back in the nut, I completed the circuit with my fingers.
That was the last time I assumed anything about electricity.
I now carry a non-contact tester, VOM, and occasionally 1K par can to any questionable electrical situation.
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Back when i worked in construction, i knew an electrician who had tested for hot for over 40 years by licking a finger and tapping.
Until one day, it caught his heartbeak in exactly the wrong place and stopped it.
Back when i worked in construction, i knew an electrician who had tested for hot for over 40 years by licking a finger and tapping.
Until one day, it caught his heartbeak in exactly the wrong place and stopped it.
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Somewhat less than if you touch the brown, yellow, or orange wires.
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Somewhat less than if you touch the brown, yellow, or orange wires.
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If I had a dollar for every time one of those lied to me....
If I had a dollar for every time one of those lied to me....
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One tool in an arsenal. I've had good luck assuming I remember to bump the tip gently to test to make sure the batteries are still good.
One tool in an arsenal. I've had good luck assuming I remember to bump the tip gently to test to make sure the batteries are still good.
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I remember chatting to an electrician who was wiring in tails for me at an event. He had suffered a shock in similar circumstances. He had isolated the live on a single phase installation, and got a 240v belt from the neutral. It turned out that the local electricity board had inadvertently reversed the meter tails. Moral of the story - always meter anything you are going to be touching.
The 1kW par definitely has its uses. I've occasionally come across cables which seem OK with a plug-in tester but won't power a par, typically because a connection is corroded or hanging by a thread.
I remember chatting to an electrician who was wiring in tails for me at an event. He had suffered a shock in similar circumstances. He had isolated the live on a single phase installation, and got a 240v belt from the neutral. It turned out that the local electricity board had inadvertently reversed the meter tails. Moral of the story - always meter anything you are going to be touching.
The 1kW par definitely has its uses. I've occasionally come across cables which seem OK with a plug-in tester but won't power a par, typically because a connection is corroded or hanging by a thread.
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On a recent show with flying pickup trucks and lots of stage-lift automation I got to explain the ''other colors'' to some stage hands that had never seen services other than 120/208 3 phase. Also led to a brief discussion about delta vs. wye...
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Somewhat less than if you touch the brown, yellow, or orange wires.
On a recent show with flying pickup trucks and lots of stage-lift automation I got to explain the ''other colors'' to some stage hands that had never seen services other than 120/208 3 phase. Also led to a brief discussion about delta vs. wye...
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Care to shed some light on this? Ya know since its a new forum and It won't show up in a search...
Quick Search of ''Cam Lock'' shows 208/240 Volt as Green, White, Black, Blue, and Red (which i knew about these colors and voltages). It also shows 480 Volt as Green, Orange, Yellow, Brown which I was unaware of (never used before).
Now back to 208/240 Delta Vs. Wye... Why? Why the difference? Benefits?
Another quick search of ''Delta Wye Transformer'' yields the answer I think;
I don't know why I never found that before but I think I answered both my questions and understand, Wye supplies a ground and neutral while Delta does not.
Care to shed some light on this? Ya know since its a new forum and It won't show up in a search...
Quick Search of ''Cam Lock'' shows 208/240 Volt as Green, White, Black, Blue, and Red (which i knew about these colors and voltages). It also shows 480 Volt as Green, Orange, Yellow, Brown which I was unaware of (never used before).
Now back to 208/240 Delta Vs. Wye... Why? Why the difference? Benefits?
Another quick search of ''Delta Wye Transformer'' yields the answer I think;
Quote: said:
I don't know why I never found that before but I think I answered both my questions and understand, Wye supplies a ground and neutral while Delta does not.
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Just came across High-leg delta too if you care to throw that in the mix as well...
Just came across High-leg delta too if you care to throw that in the mix as well...
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Touch the other wire without any color on it, and you will find a ''shocking'' surprise.
...I touch the black wire?
Evan
Touch the other wire without any color on it, and you will find a ''shocking'' surprise.