Re: inuke 6000 clipping
Good point on the A/C. Saggy power would do it. Premature clipping. And soon death of an amp.
inuke 6000 clipping
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Re: inuke 6000 clipping
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I'd WAG (wild arse guess) a non-power-factor-corrected amp draws peaks of about 2x it's peak RMS so 12000 watts for this guy = 100 amps at 120V. So you'd be dropping about 32 volts just on a 100' 12 gauge extension cord. I'd WAG something like an iTech 6000 (with PFC I think?) would be half that - and you can run those on 240V
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Re: inuke 6000 clipping
the 6000 can dim lights. No storage, it is a gate valve from the nuke to your speakers. I can't imagine the 12000.
I'd WAG (wild arse guess) a non-power-factor-corrected amp draws peaks of about 2x it's peak RMS so 12000 watts for this guy = 100 amps at 120V. So you'd be dropping about 32 volts just on a 100' 12 gauge extension cord. I'd WAG something like an iTech 6000 (with PFC I think?) would be half that - and you can run those on 240V
the 6000 can dim lights. No storage, it is a gate valve from the nuke to your speakers. I can't imagine the 12000.
Re: inuke 6000 clipping
They are actually about the same power into 4 and 8 ohms - IMO the NU6000 was a half-arse stopgap amp that will go away except in it's non-permanently-bridged version the NU4-6000 (which is pretty interesting looking for monitors).
Re: inuke 6000 clipping
The inuke12000 has double the power of the inuke6000 with identical load and it can go down to 2ohm.
There were some old specs that said so but that was an error in printing and it was confirmed by the b-boyz.
The inuke12000 has double the power of the inuke6000 with identical load and it can go down to 2ohm.
Re: inuke 6000 clipping
NU6000 - 3100w/ch@4ohms, 1600w/ch@8ohms
NU12000 - 3400w/ch@4ohms, 1700w/ch@8ohms
Looks the same to me - except the NU12000 can do 2 ohms (if you modify it for camlocks? LOL)
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU6000DSP.aspx
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU12000DSP.aspx
Dunno what BS they fed you but the Behringer site says:
NU6000 - 3100w/ch@4ohms, 1600w/ch@8ohms
NU12000 - 3400w/ch@4ohms, 1700w/ch@8ohms
Looks the same to me - except the NU12000 can do 2 ohms (if you modify it for camlocks? LOL)
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU6000DSP.aspx
http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/NU12000DSP.aspx
Re: inuke 6000 clipping
Now I probably don't have an idea here, but those are maximum power ratings, which are limited by the maximum voltage swing. RMS, however, it might be able to deliver more power.
I don't know; I'm not privy to the innards of the iNuke amplifiers, but it seems to me that everything they've published so far is totally useless in the real world, as we have clearly gone over in this thread via the excursions we've taken.
Now I probably don't have an idea here, but those are maximum power ratings, which are limited by the maximum voltage swing. RMS, however, it might be able to deliver more power.
I don't know; I'm not privy to the innards of the iNuke amplifiers, but it seems to me that everything they've published so far is totally useless in the real world, as we have clearly gone over in this thread via the excursions we've taken.
Re: inuke 6000 clipping
^ Whoah, gettin' pretty deep in here LOL. Behringer ought to get their carp together on this. BTW the NU6000 appears to have four amp modules in it (the same as the two in a NU3000) , two bridged to each output. So are they saying the NU12000 bridges FOUR NU3000 amp modules per output? That isn't possible AFAIK, that'd be one mega-half-arse amp design for sure LOL.
^ Whoah, gettin' pretty deep in here LOL. Behringer ought to get their carp together on this. BTW the NU6000 appears to have four amp modules in it (the same as the two in a NU3000) , two bridged to each output. So are they saying the NU12000 bridges FOUR NU3000 amp modules per output? That isn't possible AFAIK, that'd be one mega-half-arse amp design for sure LOL.
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Re: inuke 6000 clipping
as with many similar output tri-path, ice power, T-amp, D class amps the module is the same. The output devices, ( MOSFET ), are upped.
did you see the #s of these devices and check the specs?, or even count the outputs?
do you have a 6000 and 12000 torn apart on the bench to compare? Cause if you are going by lit, they use many of the same photos of the innards. Everyone does. Even Lab Poupon.
you are correct about the specs listed on the web site. 2x into 8 is 1600 for the 6000 and 1700 for the 12000. They best fix that cause 100 watts at that price jump is just not worth it.
350 for the 6000 and 899 for the 12000. I'd sooner but 2 6000s for 700 bucks, in fact that is just what I did. The nu4-6000 is 350 also and at 440 per ch into 8, I have 2 of those also. Like em, they work well.
found this
A message from Behringer on this issue:
Dear All,
Thanks for your interest in the iNuke amplifier series. I have to apologize for a typo on the marketing feature list of NU12000DSP.
NU12000 technically is based around 4 amplifier modules, two pairs of which are internally working in a bridge mode configuration, already.
Hence, there is no further option for bridging channels and the minimal load impedance is 4 Ohms, each. We will immediately fix the web featurelist to correctly state:
2 x 6000 Watts into 4 Ohms, 2 x 3,000 Watts into 8 Ohms
Sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope that makes sense to you.
Regards,
Jan Duwe
Assistant Manager Conceptual Engineering
MUSIC-GROUP Services EU
Going by the NU6000 specs (which have been confirmed on test) this will mean 2x4400Wrms into 4 ohms and 2x2200Wrms into 8 ohms.
as with many similar output tri-path, ice power, T-amp, D class amps the module is the same. The output devices, ( MOSFET ), are upped.
did you see the #s of these devices and check the specs?, or even count the outputs?
do you have a 6000 and 12000 torn apart on the bench to compare? Cause if you are going by lit, they use many of the same photos of the innards. Everyone does. Even Lab Poupon.
you are correct about the specs listed on the web site. 2x into 8 is 1600 for the 6000 and 1700 for the 12000. They best fix that cause 100 watts at that price jump is just not worth it.
350 for the 6000 and 899 for the 12000. I'd sooner but 2 6000s for 700 bucks, in fact that is just what I did. The nu4-6000 is 350 also and at 440 per ch into 8, I have 2 of those also. Like em, they work well.
found this
A message from Behringer on this issue:
Dear All,
Thanks for your interest in the iNuke amplifier series. I have to apologize for a typo on the marketing feature list of NU12000DSP.
NU12000 technically is based around 4 amplifier modules, two pairs of which are internally working in a bridge mode configuration, already.
Hence, there is no further option for bridging channels and the minimal load impedance is 4 Ohms, each. We will immediately fix the web featurelist to correctly state:
2 x 6000 Watts into 4 Ohms, 2 x 3,000 Watts into 8 Ohms
Sorry for the inconvenience, and I hope that makes sense to you.
Regards,
Jan Duwe
Assistant Manager Conceptual Engineering
MUSIC-GROUP Services EU
Going by the NU6000 specs (which have been confirmed on test) this will mean 2x4400Wrms into 4 ohms and 2x2200Wrms into 8 ohms.
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Re: inuke 6000 clipping
sure it will do 2 x 12000 into 2, right before it blows up. I configure all my loads to be no less that 4 as much as possible.
I am old school here. 2 x 3000 into 8 makes it a 6000 to me. This whole 2 ohm rating is BS.And this differs how from my post above? :lol:8)~~
sure it will do 2 x 12000 into 2, right before it blows up. I configure all my loads to be no less that 4 as much as possible.