Presonus Studio-Live 24

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Again though, with that logic, how does Midas stay in business. You can get analog boards with the same features for 1/2 the cost or less. Not all shoppers are looking for the ''most stuff in a box'' and that's where the break down is. IMO, the meter bridge on the SL is worth $500 - I realize that seems ludicrous to a lot of people, but I run sound from stage and the ability to see all channels has become the #1 feature I want. It makes a material difference in the quality of our shows and even at $500 would be my share of 1 wedding gig.



The ease of the recording feature is also worth at least a few hundred bucks versus a much more cumbersome method of the Yamaha. Using live performances as demos saves hundreds, if not thousands versus a studio demo, not to mention the time invested to have to do one. I can record first time songs easily and distribute to other band members to work on any parts needed, etc and I don't have to get out patch cables, interfaces, etc, just hook up 1 firewire cable to a laptop I'm already using for break music.



These are major features that are very important to me. The Yamaha has many things the SL lacks, but that doesn't mean the SL is a ''starter board''. It's simply different.



I'll get off my high horse as I'm beginning to beat it to death.
 
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I've mixed on the SL16 and the O1V96. Which is best? It depends. Each has advantages over the other (features, ease of use). I would have to have know a lot about the user before recommending one over the other.
 
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Although the ability to control the StudioLive from a remote laptop has been around for a while now, Presonus just released information about a native Ipad app that will do it even better. It should be released in 2-3 weeks.



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So a friend of mine brought out the SL24 this weekend for me to try out. Now he went to the wrong venue so he ended up showing up with the desk about 15 mins before sound check.



I was up in running in 5. I Thought the layout was great (even compared to way more expensive digital desks - ecspecially yamaha which i really hate) I loved that you can use the fat channel (or all the parametric EQ, dynamics, FX, limiter) on the mains, subgroups, and stereo channels. Thats really great. Not only that, you can send the stereo channels to the auxes. The board sounded great, the dynamics worked great, and it just did everything i needed it to and i was able to do anything i wanted to without reading the manual.



I also noticed that the faders and gains are re-callable. The ''locate'' feature allows you to reset your faders by using the meters as the guide.



my only wish list would be more channels and the gains had a circular meter for indicating the gains position. Having motorized faders would be great but that would add another $500 to the price tag. (at least)



Having an ipad would make this an amazing tool for smaller shows, churches, clubs. My only concern is stability, there seems to be mixed reviews.



Hey for under $3k you cant have everything. Presonus did an amazing job on this thing and i cant wait to see the competitions response to this.
 
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Dan Bouchard wrote on Sun said:
So a friend of mine brought out the SL24 this weekend for me to try out. Now he went to the wrong venue so he ended up showing up with the desk about 15 mins before sound check.
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Funny.... We showed up to our show a few months ago and there was a full PA already set up. We missed the sound guy by 30 seconds. When he came back he realized he wasn't at the right venue. He too had an SL. The show was in 60 minutes from when he left and it was a 30 minute drive to the venue. I emailed him the next day to see how he got along. He had basically the same report you did about the SL being pretty handy as he'd already done that band at that venue before so there was a rough sketch already dialed in.





Dan Bouchard wrote on Sun said:
Hey for under $3k you cant have everything. Presonus did an amazing job on this thing and i cant wait to see the competitions response to this.
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I'm actually pretty amazed Presonus got so far ahead of the curve in this respect. I mean Yamaha did it first with the O1V like a decade ago now. Behringer made a board for a few years and discontinued it. Unless you count the Phonic offering, Presonus has had the only thing new in this price point for a solid two years now. I see Behringer is back at it again. If people are nervous about reliability with newcomer Presonus, Behringer is out of that picture. My guess is the purchase of Midas will help that part of their business though. Makes me wonder why they didn't slap the Midas badge on it.
 
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Eric Simna wrote on Mon said:
Sean Zurbrick wrote on Sun said:
Makes me wonder why they didn't slap the Midas badge on it.
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Because nobody would believe a digital Midas to come with pricetag in the range Behringer would. There are still professional expectations... And I'm sure it will be a nice console, but it wont *BE* a Midas.
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I was being tongue and cheek. I did see a promo video from a trade show, maybe NAMM but I can't remember, where Midas was mentioned by the Behringer demo dude. I guess it's like Loud Technologies owning both Mackie and EAW. The are using EAW as marketing fodder for Mackie's new ''HD'' line. So they get EAW's name, but don't dilute th product by putting an EAW badge on a sub $1000 speaker.
 
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Wow, i just watched the X32 demo on youtube and what a powerful desk they have made... it has it all. They are coming out with digital snake for it too. Its really too bad they have made such a bad name for themselves and it will polly sound - eh ''ok'' and of course be susceptible to the behringer quality control curse.



Really well thought out and unbelievably CHEAP at $2499.



Might have to ''borrow'' one from guitar center when they are released just to ease my curiosity. I don't think i could ever bring my self to rely on a behringer console in the real world though.



 
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Dan Bouchard wrote on Mon said:
Wow, i just watched the X32 demo on youtube and what a powerful desk they have made... it has it all. They are coming out with digital snake for it too. Its really too bad they have made such a bad name for themselves and it will polly sound - eh ''ok'' and of course be susceptible to the behringer quality control curse.



Really well thought out and unbelievably CHEAP at $2499.



Might have to ''borrow'' one from guitar center when they are released just to ease my curiosity. I don't think i could ever bring my self to rely on a behringer console in the real world though.
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wow! Obviously one has to consider it is Behringer, but I'm noticing 32 XLR in, 16 XLR out; 32 track recording directly to USB memory devices; motorized faders; 8 GEQ... Even if you wanted to use outboard processing (e.g. I think the gate is probably not gonna be usable for many) at $2499, that frees up a lot of budget for such items.



That's a lot to go wrong though too. Hopefully the specs and build quality would be better than on say my UB802 which I only use for non-critical and backup use.
 
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