X32 Discussion

Re: X32 Discussion

Blind me. Not sure how I missed that.

Anybody know what the un-populated double row headers are that are roughly below the faders? (Near the 3 DIPs and the QFP.)
Given the number of pins and its location close to the mcu I'd say that this is a jtag-connector. These connectors are usually un-populated in normal production. There is probably two or three resistors missing for the jtag as well...
 
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I just got back from driving 88 miles and spending 3 hours to find out that Behringer Service sent the local place a procedure for solving the Channel 16/32 noise problem, and not a procedure to solve the headphone/monitor noise problem. The local guy verified that my console didn't have a 16/32 noise problem

Two things that I noticed of your pictures.

Aren't two screws missing in the top right corner of the bottom assembly?

It looks like the headphone cable is strapped together and in parallell with the power cable?
 
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Given the number of pins and its location close to the mcu I'd say that this is a jtag-connector. These connectors are usually un-populated in normal production. There is probably two or three resistors missing for the jtag as well...

Might not be JTAG , JTAG only uses 4/5 pins and most connections have an extra 4/5 grounds so 10 pins max. Could be a JTAG + something else or just test points.

Kev
 
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I know some people already talked about that digital noise and the solution seem to move a cable inside the desk... Should anybody give the "how to" ?
Is there any possibility to get that fix? My X32 got noise also with the headphone and some inputs..

Your consoles are under warranty - if you want them to stay that way, call Behringer support :) If you don't have a local support option or have some other circumstances that preclude you from taking the console to official support, let them tell you how to open it and fixit - and get a record from them that they did so in case it ever becomes an issue later. And don't forget to register your X32 for your extra years of support...
 
Therefore, one or more iPads will always be present with each console present, which means multiple wireless routers (one for each console).

Just be aware that while there are (in the US) 11 wifi "channels", all but 1, 6 and 11 overlap some. Assuming there is no wifi around you, that means you only get three really clean channels. I'm not sure how many consoles you are going to be traveling with, but three wifi points in one room on isolated channels is all you are going to reasonably get away with - if they are in the same area. If the site you are at has wifi (or some !^$@# in the crowd with his personal hotspot turned on) then you will have fewer channels to pick from. If you need multiple wifi networks on a routine basis, there are wifi access points like the Ubiquity Unifi's that can have four SSID's on one radio. You can use VLANs to isolate one console per wifi network if you still desire, but it dramatically cuts down the potential for interference for you.

Also if you are going to be using more than one AP for coverage as you talked about later in your post, Unifi makes that dramatically easier too..

If there is interest in this from you or anyone else and more details are desired, we should probably start another thread :) And should you think a solution like Unifi is expensive, the 2.5GHz models can be found for $70 a piece. The Pro model which is dual radio and also has 5GHz are quite a bit more relatively speaking - they are around $240 - but the 5GHz band is far less crowded and is probably going to be worth it in the long run.
 
Re: S16 Full Manual ?

The front of the Quick Start Guide says to "Check Out behringer.com for Full Manual".
Unfortunately, I've not been able to locate a full manual. It's not listed in the Documentation section.

I saw that and was puzzled by it too. I wonder if that's just not part of their document template for quickstart guides - I don't know what else isn't covered in the quicstart??
 
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Might not be JTAG , JTAG only uses 4/5 pins and most connections have an extra 4/5 grounds so 10 pins max. Could be a JTAG + something else or just test points.

Kev
True, but the 20-pin jtag connector is standard (one of a couple of others). I don't understand why they ever settled for the 20-pin connector but it seems to originate from the ARM-mcu line.
 

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Just be aware that while there are (in the US) 11 wifi "channels", all but 1, 6 and 11 overlap some. Assuming there is no wifi around you, that means you only get three really clean channels. I'm not sure how many consoles you are going to be traveling with, but three wifi points in one room on isolated channels is all you are going to reasonably get away with - if they are in the same area. If the site you are at has wifi (or some !^$@# in the crowd with his personal hotspot turned on) then you will have fewer channels to pick from. If you need multiple wifi networks on a routine basis, there are wifi access points like the Ubiquity Unifi's that can have four SSID's on one radio. You can use VLANs to isolate one console per wifi network if you still desire, but it dramatically cuts down the potential for interference for you.

Also if you are going to be using more than one AP for coverage as you talked about later in your post, Unifi makes that dramatically easier too..

If there is interest in this from you or anyone else and more details are desired, we should probably start another thread :) And should you think a solution like Unifi is expensive, the 2.5GHz models can be found for $70 a piece. The Pro model which is dual radio and also has 5GHz are quite a bit more relatively speaking - they are around $240 - but the 5GHz band is far less crowded and is probably going to be worth it in the long run.

Ubiquiti has 5GHz access points for about the same price as 2.4GHz APs. If you can get all the tablet users on that band it would be much better, and your advice about multiple SSID on 1 radio (and 1 good antenna) still applies. FruitFons < v5 have only 2.4G radios.
 
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Please note, no wifi scanner will show you other non-wifi equipment using the frequencies. So many devices are using the 2.4GHz today (bluetooth, wireless mouse/keyboard, remote controllers, wireless speakers, wireless mics/bodypacks, video transmitters, etc....) that you may not even be aware of its existance.

Airview works well too. I need to pick up another one before they disappear...
 
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Ubiquiti has 5GHz access points for about the same price as 2.4GHz APs.

Yup, but I don't know if they will do multiple SSIDs - one wifi per console could be a useful way to keep users isolated to the relevant console given the lack of security features on the X32 right now. If multiple SSIDs/VLANs or the seamless management of multiple AP's aren't a requirement then there are lots of options out there. I just really like Unifi for the management features it provides, but if you don't need 'em then there are other solutions out there for sure.
 
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Yup, but I don't know if they will do multiple SSIDs - one wifi per console could be a useful way to keep users isolated to the relevant console given the lack of security features on the X32 right now. If multiple SSIDs/VLANs or the seamless management of multiple AP's aren't a requirement then there are lots of options out there. I just really like Unifi for the management features it provides, but if you don't need 'em then there are other solutions out there for sure.

Went back and looked, you're right... they won't do multiple SSID.
 
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If you need multiple wifi networks on a routine basis, there are wifi access points like the Ubiquity Unifi's that can have four SSID's on one radio. You can use VLANs to isolate one console per wifi network if you still desire, but it dramatically cuts down the potential for interference for you.

Also if you are going to be using more than one AP for coverage as you talked about later in your post, Unifi makes that dramatically easier too...

Many wifi routers can also do extended coverage by joining an existing wifi nework.

I.e. If you use the airport express you can add 5GHz to your existing wifi network and at the same time extend your coverage.
 
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True, but the 20-pin jtag connector is standard (one of a couple of others). I don't understand why they ever settled for the 20-pin connector but it seems to originate from the ARM-mcu line.

That looks like a lot of pins for JTAG duty,,, they may arrange the pinout that way to interleave a ground wire with every active line in a ribbon cable so they can run faster clocks, or longer dongle cables.

or not...

Seems like unimportant minutiae to mixer users....

JR
 
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If there is interest in this from you or anyone else and more details are desired, we should probably start another thread :)

I think this is a good idee.

The Pro model which is dual radio and also has 5GHz are quite a bit more relatively speaking - they are around $240 - but the 5GHz band is far less crowded and is probably going to be worth it in the long run.

5GHz is quite some higher as 2.5, how is distance coverage at that frequency compared to 2.5GHz?
 
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Two things that I noticed of your pictures.

Aren't two screws missing in the top right corner of the bottom assembly?

It looks like the headphone cable is strapped together and in parallell with the power cable?

Which bottom assembly in which picture?

The only bits of headphone cable I can clearly identify are a single cable from the left hand headphone jack that runs underneath a PC board assembly and disappears behind a wire bundle, and a little bit of unbundled wires connecting to the right hand jack that disappears behind what I assume is the power supply.

He didn't want to give me any time to take pictures once we decided there was nothing more to do to fix the problem and it was time to button up.
 
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Which bottom assembly in which picture?

The only bits of headphone cable I can clearly identify are a single cable from the left hand headphone jack that runs underneath a PC board assembly and disappears behind a wire bundle, and a little bit of unbundled wires connecting to the right hand jack that disappears behind what I assume is the power supply.

He didn't want to give me any time to take pictures once we decided there was nothing more to do to fix the problem and it was time to button up.
Looks like I followed the wrong cable in the picture. The left one runs right under the dsp-card. I don't think that is any better ;-)

This may also explain why I hear slighly more digital noise from the left connector than the right one.
 

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Re: midi / DMX control

I saw some posts of people controlling dmx lights with osc or something like that.
But I do use Martin lightjockey and that can be controlled by midi.

What are the possibilities of outputting midi from the console. Are all button / faders sending midi or is it only the output section. (I saw cubase video only using this section...)
I understood midi can also be send over the USB remote connection?
 
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Yup, but I don't know if they will do multiple SSIDs - one wifi per console could be a useful way to keep users isolated to the relevant console given the lack of security features on the X32 right now. If multiple SSIDs/VLANs or the seamless management of multiple AP's aren't a requirement then there are lots of options out there. I just really like Unifi for the management features it provides, but if you don't need 'em then there are other solutions out there for sure.

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