X32 Discussion

Re: How to do an analog insert?

If you were only doing 8 channels of automixer whats the downside of assigning 8 individual post fader auxes to the ins on the dugan and return the returns to another set of channels and unassign the outs of the channels that you are feeding the dugan from and use the inserts as your feeds to L,R or a buss with an onboard eq inserted into. Scenario below:
Wireless Lav 1 post fader Aux 1 unassign outputs so the out is ONLY going to the input of the Dugan
Wireless Lav 2 post fader Aux 2.....

Return output 1 of the dugan to channel 9 and assign it as it was an input from the mic but push the fader to unity as your not going to see signal to this input unless the fader to mic one is pushed up as the feed to the Dugan is POST fader.

Do you see where I'm going with this. You could simplify the visual on this by returning the Dugan inputs to the second layer inputs 17-24
 
Re: How to do an analog insert?

Per Søvik said:
I would imagine it would be present on the aux input as I can see no reason why it wouldn't be as long as it is assigned to be. You can of course reassign the channel to take the input from somewhere else, but .....
I'll have a look later today, as I'm not aware of exactly where the insert is tapped back from the aux channel, but I would imagine it would be right after the trim and before any eq.....................
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I see that you can select "OFF" (it really should be "NONE") as an input source for any channel (except some, see below) so the answer is yes. Maybe this should be automated, ie if an aux return is used as the return of an insert, that aux return channel should have its source changed to "OFF". Not a big deal, however.

Incidentally, I noticed that you can't change the source of the FX return channels, at least in XControl. I was moving my FX returns up into the 17-32 layer, just to reduce the number of layers needed, and saw that you couldn't remove them from their default positions on the Aux-FX layer, and so that means you can't use channels 42-48 for anything other than FX returns. Again, not a big deal.

The more I learn about this console the more I like it. I'm expecting to get one for evaluation on Wednesday. Can't wait!

Mick Berg.
 
Re: How to do an analog insert?

Is it possible to connect a MOTU 828mk2 into the firewire i/o and break out to analog ins and outs to do analog inserts or can't u assign the insert to the firewire i/o?
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Simply put, this console does everything I need it to do and does it well. I've already convinced two churches and one larger sound company here in VA (which we used x32 for FOH for Travis Tritt through a JBL Vertec 4889 rig) to buy one. Durability is yet to be seen, but I would take this anywhere anyday. I typically mix on an SC48 at church every Sunday, and I can say I almost enjoy the x32 as much. Of course it has shortcomings, but they're hard to notice when you realize you only paid $2899 for this.x32 full rig.jpg
 
Routing outputs from 2nd X32

I have 2 X32s that I want to use as FOH and Monitor.

All inputs and outputs are plugged into the monitor board. I have the second board connected via AES50 A and have routed all of the local inputs to the FOH board.

I have all input signals at the FOH, but can not figure out how to route the output of the FOH (channels 15/16) back to the monitor board.

My goal is to have a single Cat5 cable to the FOH.

Can someone shed some light on setting up the outputs 9-16 from the FOH x32 to route to the monitor board outputs 9-16?

Thanks!

John Rendell
 
Re: Routing outputs from 2nd X32

John Rendell said:
I have 2 X32s that I want to use as FOH and Monitor.

All inputs and outputs are plugged into the monitor board. I have the second board connected via AES50 A and have routed all of the local inputs to the FOH board.

I have all input signals at the FOH, but can not figure out how to route the output of the FOH (channels 15/16) back to the monitor board.

My goal is to have a single Cat5 cable to the FOH.

Can someone shed some light on setting up the outputs 9-16 from the FOH x32 to route to the monitor board outputs 9-


John Rendell
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YouTube ... There's a guy that shows it there..
 
Re: How to do an analog insert?

Joe Sanborn said:
Hi,

The X32 is actually very well suited for studio applications.

I have extensive experience using the X32 with great success with ProTools and Logic on a Mac, and Reaper on the PC format - Full 32 in and 32 out and control surface functions.

If you are on a PC platform there are many parameters outside of the X32 such as PC OS, hardware etc.

I think we all need to remember that getting 32 inputs and 32 outputs, in and out of a computer, was not so easy.... six months ago.
You need a fast computer, Firewire or USB 2.0 at a minimum, and a correctly configured PC.

Let me know if I can help out at all.

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
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Hi JOE
Thanks for your time
I hope you can help me

Actually everything is based on three problems

1) That exact configuration of the "X-UF 1394 Driver Control Panel" is required for the "buffer size" work to these values 64, 128, 256, 512, 1024, 2048?

Protools only works with this sizes and does not recognize others intermediate values ..

2) The X32 has problems with changing Sampler Rate of 44100 - 48000 and 48000 - 41000. the X32 has to restart, after restart, they sometimes do not hear any signal to monitors ..
Not so sure that it is for the durability of the X32, change very often this Sampler Rate ..

3) What is a setup for the X32, record in Protools, signals
MIDI??
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I/O routing and P16

Hi,

I have a question about P16 routing.

My current setup has inputs being routed to non default faders (for example fader one source is actually input 17). My question is then for the P16 routing tab...do I set the source as the default fader value (direct input 1) or would I use the actual input source (direct input 17 in the above example)?

Does that make sense?

Thanks,
Jared
 
Re: How to do an analog insert?

Mick Berg said:
Folks, if you are starting a new subject, please use an appropriate title for your post, dont just Re: to the last one. We now have two completely irrelevant discussions under the title "How to do an analog insert".
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Most likely because quick reply doesn't let you edit the topic....
 
X32 update

Hello all, I purchased this board late September and it has performed flawlesly with the exception of the some flying faders not hitting their prevoius marks upon recall, but that was something that I could live with. I had attributed it to me not updating the firmware, lazy me. But last week during a gig when I depressed the Aux in/USB FX Returns button one of the paired FX faders climbed on it's own and sent out a shreik of FX noise and took out a diaphragm, I made it through the rest of the show as long as I did not touch that button again. The next day I bench tested the board to replicate the problem depressing the same button and the same thing happened everytime, also more faders were missing their previous marks. Also the channel 16/32 issue is rearing it's head. Today I updated the firmware to the current 1.09 and it did not make a difference, I sent a service request to the mothership and am waiting for a RMA, I will keep every interested posted.

I am still in love with this board and if this issue is resolved which I have NO DOUBT it will be, I will purchase (2) more mixers thereafter. So to any potential buyers reading this please do not be discouraged by this post, this is just a performance update and to see if others are eperiencing the same issue.
 
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Re: I/O routing and P16

Jared Koopman said:
Hi,

I have a question about P16 routing.

My current setup has inputs being routed to non default faders (for example fader one source is actually input 17). My question is then for the P16 routing tab...do I set the source as the default fader value (direct input 1) or would I use the actual input source (direct input 17 in the above example)?

Does that make sense?

Thanks,
Jared
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Hi Jared,
On the P16 page of the ROUTING menu, the "Direct Out" assignments will follow the changes you make in the "source" page of a channel. This means that in your scenario, you would assign Dir Out Ch 1 on the P16 page, even though it is physically plugged into Input 17.
Note that this is different than the behavior of the "Card Out" and "AES50 Out" pages, where the "Local" options always refer to the physical XLR inputs.


Best,
John DiNicola
Senior Specialist, Product Support
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
 
Re: I/O routing and P16

Dear X32 Heads,
I'm back on the map. Did two X32 gigs this week. Got an new event location in my hometown, where I'm the resident soundguy. Small location (350 pax max), but just around the corner. Did a normal Top40 gig on friday. 24 inputs, six monitor sends nothing special beside the fact, that my X32 rig is still on tour in England with "WBTBWB". So I payed the guys from Behringer a visit and freeloaded one X32 and two S16 from them. Thanks a ton guys!

BTW: They showed me the new firmware 1.10, which is close to it's release. There are ton's of not so obvious enhancements implemented, that's why the R&D spends more times for checking for bugs than before. And yes, I saw the new De-Esser FX...looks great and easy to use as well.





Yesterday I did a blues rockband show in a sold out venue (500pax). I used the house PA and Monitorsystem and just brought the X32, two S16 and my own mics with me. In addition, the Band wanted a multitrack recording of the show. I had 32 Inputs and nine monitor feeds to take care for. Concerning the monitors, I used on the assign section B all UDK buttons for dailing in the monitor sends. This speeds up the workflow - very nice option! For the recording I used a new DAW software. I was using "Nuendo Live"-->
Nuendo Live*:**|*http://www.steinberg.net/

I recorded 32 Tracks, and the band played almost five hours at a stretch! My 2011 MBP ran with 64 Samples latency and I used the Firewire Port. Nuendo Live is awesome. It's a stripped down Nuendo version and was specially coded for recording live events. It is a bit pricy and you will need an usb dongle, but it works flawlessly with my Mac and the X32 over firewire. The gig was nice as well, got lot's of compliments for the overall sound.










Cheers
Christian
 
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Re: X32 update

Mark Phillips said:
Hello all, I purchased this board late September and it has performed flawlesly with the exception of the some flying faders not hitting their prevoius marks upon recall, but that was something that I could live with. I had attributed it to me not updating the firmware, lazy me. But last week during a gig when I depressed the Aux in/USB FX Returns button one of the paired FX faders climbed on it's own and sent out a shreik of FX noise and took out a diaphragm, I made it through the rest of the show as long as I did not touch that button again. The next day I bench tested the board to replicate the problem depressing the same button and the same thing happened everytime, also more faders were missing their previous marks. Also the channel 16/32 issue is rearing it's head. Today I updated the firmware to the current 1.09 and it did not make a difference, I sent a service request to the mothership and am waiting for a RMA, I will keep every interested posted.

I am still in love with this board and if this issue is resolved which I have NO DOUBT it will be, I will purchase (2) more mixers thereafter. So to any potential buyers reading this please do not be discouraged by this post, this is just a performance update and to see if others are eperiencing the same issue.
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Hi Mark,

Glad you are enjoying your X32. Sorry you had an issue this week.

We will make sure this is taken care of.

We also now have a direct phone number for Chase McNight at our Las Vegas facility.
702-371-0830

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
 
Re: I/O routing and P16

Christian Boche said:
Dear X32 Heads,
I'm back on the map. Did two X32 gigs this week. Got an new event location in my hometown, where I'm the resident soundguy. Small location (350 pax max), but just around the corner. Did a normal Top40 gig on friday. 24 inputs, six monitor sends nothing special beside the fact, that my X32 rig is still on tour in England with "WBTBWB". So I payed the guys from Behringer a visit and freeloaded one X32 and two S16 from them. Thanks a ton guys!

BTW: They showed me the new firmware 1.10, which is close to it's release. There are ton's of not so obvious enhancements implemented, that's why the R&D spends more times for checking for bugs than before. And yes, I saw the new De-Esser FX...looks great and easy to use as well.

Yesterday I did a blues rockband show in a sold out venue (500pax). I used the house PA and Monitorsystem and just brought the X32, two S16 and my own mics with me. In addition, the Band wanted a multitrack recording of the show. I had 32 Inputs and nine monitor feeds to take care for. Concerning the monitors, I used on the assign section B all UDK buttons for dailing in the monitor sends. This speeds up the workflow - very nice option! For the recording I used a new DAW software. I was using "Nuendo Live"-->
Nuendo Live*:**|*http://www.steinberg.net/

I recorded 32 Tracks, and the band played almost five hours at a stretch! My 2011 MBP ran with 64 Samples latency and I used the Firewire Port. Nuendo Live is awesome. It's a stripped down Nuendo version and was specially coded for recording live events. It is a bit pricy and you will need an usb dongle, but it works flawlessly with my Mac and the X32 over firewire. The gig was nice as well, got lot's of compliments for the overall sound.

Cheers
Christian
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Nice work Christian! I just finished up a two week run of a musical production of White Christmas - I posted some pictures above. 23 RF mics (Sennheiser Belt Pack with Countryman E6i), 4 lines from the Orchestra Pit (Bass and Key DI, plus a pair of Rode NT2) and sound effects from my laptop through an aux input. PA was MRX 515 over 518, with AC25 center fills, processed and powered by two Crown XTI4000. I used the on-board graph for the first time, no complaints, it worked like you would expect a graphic eq to work.

The show would have been a nightmare to run on an analogue console, but the power provided by the X32 allowed me to EQ and compress and generally just tweak each actors voice to perfection, metering on each channel provided a nice visual reference of what each mic was doing.

Look forward to working out the X32 in a more conventional band atmosphere, but anyone who is looking for a new console for theatre use, should give the X32 a strong consideration.
 
Re: X32 update

Good evening!

Not far away from Christian, I did an X32-Job last friday in a really small venue, but of course without the pleasure of the S16!
The croatian band "October Light" came after a long journey and problems with their passports to our small village here in germany.



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The drumset (cartons on the right) was sent by Thomann parcel service directly to the venue.
After their lateness it took 20 minutes to connect their in-ear split and tune their new drumheads the rest did the X32 with gates and wave-designer.

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After the gig, the band was very interested in the board first of all in the well-sounding effects!


All in all it was an uncomplicated evening an my X32 did a great job!
Here a little 2-Track snippet of course without the loud direct sound in this small venue:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19544668/ol/OL2.mp3

Cheers,
Tobi
 
Delay not working

I think I have a bug. I mentioned it earlier and thought I found the problem but it has still persisted. Sometime when I start up the console, the delay effect does not work. All the routing seems to be fine, and the buses page shows that signal is going to the effect, but when I switch to the effect page, the delay shows no signal passing through.

I have checked all the routing and am losing my mind over this. Let me know what I'm doing wrong.
 
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