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X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Hi Guys,
Recently there was a post on here (I think it was on this site) by someone who was working on an Off Line Scene File Editor for the X32.
I've looked and looked this morning, but I can't find it. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

You know what they say... When an audio engineer hits 50, one of two things starts to go. The memory or the hearing. Well, my ears are still great... :?~:-?~:???:

Thanks all,
Mark
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Mark Petersen said:
Hi Guys,
Recently there was a post on here (I think it was on this site) by someone who was working on an Off Line Scene File Editor for the X32.
I've looked and looked this morning, but I can't find it. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

You know what they say... When an audio engineer hits 50, one of two things starts to go. The memory or the hearing. Well, my ears are still great... :?~:-?~:???:

Thanks all,
Mark
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If you're talking about Windows editor - it's not finished.

The only one working project now is online generator.
Here you are: x32.net16.net
But it is PDF generator only.
 
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Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Mark Petersen said:
Hi Guys,
Recently there was a post on here (I think it was on this site) by someone who was working on an Off Line Scene File Editor for the X32.
I've looked and looked this morning, but I can't find it. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

You know what they say... When an audio engineer hits 50, one of two things starts to go. The memory or the hearing. Well, my ears are still great... :?~:-?~:???:

Thanks all,
Mark
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I just need to ask - You do know that you can do offline scene editing in xcontrol?
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Mark Petersen said:
Hi Guys,
Recently there was a post on here (I think it was on this site) by someone who was working on an Off Line Scene File Editor for the X32.
I've looked and looked this morning, but I can't find it. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

You know what they say... When an audio engineer hits 50, one of two things starts to go. The memory or the hearing. Well, my ears are still great... :?~:-?~:???:

Thanks all,
Mark
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I don't think you'll find it, it is probably very much on the concept stage still. The developer in question is Kevin Hunter, he'll probably chime in with a status update.
Offline editing can be done with most text editors, f.e. Wordpad, depends on what in particular you want to edit.
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Mark Petersen said:
Hi Guys,
Recently there was a post on here (I think it was on this site) by someone who was working on an Off Line Scene File Editor for the X32.
I've looked and looked this morning, but I can't find it. Can anyone help point me in the right direction?

You know what they say... When an audio engineer hits 50, one of two things starts to go. The memory or the hearing. Well, my ears are still great... :?~:-?~:???:

Thanks all,
Mark
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Hi Mark,

The software is coming along nicely but I cannot release it to the public yet as I am awaiting permission from Behringer to use the scribble strip icons as they are copyright of behringer. (Unless we have any good graphics designers on this site that could create our own ones ???)

The patch list creator part of the application is working nicely and Im currently adding in the capability of reading the scenes directly from the console .

But as Per quite correctly says this is not a scene editor, you can do that with xcontrol.

I will let you know more as soon as I know anything :D~:-D~:grin:

Kev
 
Re: P16-M - Cannot read the pot & button labels!

Christoph Böhm said:
After receiving my P16-M, I designed some labels, with each instrument being depicted by an icon. With a transparent, glueing printing foil those labels are nearly unnoticeable while the instrument symbols are clearly visible, even in low-light situations. I can't imagine a P16-M without it anymore :)

Here are some pictures:

View attachment 5652View attachment 5653View attachment 5654

Regards,

Christoph
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First off, the labels look great, Christoph! Very clean.
I just added a little LED light to each P16-M on stage. It's a little messy, and defeats the reason for our having a P16-D as they require a wall wart power supply, but this is just a first revision design. I had 20 minutes prior to a show starting, and had a half dozen littlelites lying around. So, problem solved.

I'll build up a self contained version that pulls power from the POE supplied by the P16-D down the road, but ultimately, for all those sdaying the printing is the wrong color, or the color scheme is wrong, or whatever, not being able to read the printing on the P16-M due to lack of ambient light is certainly not a design flaw, and absolutely isn't something Behringer is responsible for. That line of thinking is like suing a book’s publisher because you read the book in the dark and ruined your eyes! It can be read just find in proper READING light.

I'd be willing to bet you could find just as many musicians who said they *could* read their P16-M while on stage as you could those who said they *could not*. It's subjective. Personally, I think the headphone amp in my X32 is really wimpy, so I have an external one mounted in the doghouse of my case next to the WIFI router. My buddy, who typically mixes the same genre of music and is approximately the same age, finds his to be more than adequate. And yes... I've scoped them both, and they're identical as far as output goes. So, same thing here... It's subjective.
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Kevin Hunter said:
Hi Mark,

The software is coming along nicely but I cannot release it to the public yet as I am awaiting permission from Behringer to use the scribble strip icons as they are copyright of behringer. (Unless we have any good graphics designers on this site that could create our own ones ???)

The patch list creator part of the application is working nicely and Im currently adding in the capability of reading the scenes directly from the console .

But as Per quite correctly says this is not a scene editor, you can do that with xcontrol.

I will let you know more as soon as I know anything :D~:-D~:grin:

Kev
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Great! Please do keep me in mind. I'm curious to se what you end up with.
Thanks,
Mark
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Uhhh, yes... Obviously. However, it's painfully slow, and extremely inaccurate that way.

I've already written a utility of my own that grabs scenes from the X32, imports them into MS Excell for editing, and allows you to save them back to the X32. Doing it this way is, first off, much faster, and secondly, I can see every bit of data saved in a scene laid out on one screen, ready to be edited. I can also see all data fields of multiple scenes laid out one after another on the same screen for comparison this way.

I was just curious to see what others are coming up with. I ran into some odd communications problems that had to be dealt with in my utility, and I'm curious to see how others dealt with, or got around them. But thanks anyway.
 
Re: P16-M - Cannot read the pot & button labels!

What about a battery powered LED booklight? I don't know how you're mounting/placing your P-16's, but there's a wide variety of clip options - some that just slide over a thinner object (might work to slide right onto the P-16MB or some other type of music stand style holder), others have bigger clips to clip onto thicker objects. Another way might be to take one of the flatter "slide" clips and velcro to the bottom of the P-16?

Yes it'd take batteries but batteries should last an entire gig or longer, and if it uses the same batteries as your wireless mics then you've got yourself a place to use the half-used (ie, one show) batteries!

Just a thought. Amazon has a ton of "led booklights" as examples.

Its too bad they didn't think to put a USB port on the P-16 (for power only) specifically for this purpose (take power from either the wall wart or the P-16D power feed), but that would've depended on someone thinking of it and it fitting within the price point.
 
latest X32 user manual is corrupted.

The latest version of the X32 user manual on the B web site appears to be corrupted.

Adobe reader reports: "File does not begin with '%PDF-', http://www.behringer.com/assets/X32_M_EN.pdf"
 
Re: P16-M - Cannot read the pot & button labels!

Chris Clark said:
What about a battery powered LED booklight? I don't know how you're mounting/placing your P-16's, but there's a wide variety of clip options - some that just slide over a thinner object (might work to slide right onto the P-16MB or some other type of music stand style holder), others have bigger clips to clip onto thicker objects. Another way might be to take one of the flatter "slide" clips and velcro to the bottom of the P-16?

Yes it'd take batteries but batteries should last an entire gig or longer, and if it uses the same batteries as your wireless mics then you've got yourself a place to use the half-used (ie, one show) batteries!

Just a thought. Amazon has a ton of "led booklights" as examples.

Its too bad they didn't think to put a USB port on the P-16 (for power only) specifically for this purpose (take power from either the wall wart or the P-16D power feed), but that would've depended on someone thinking of it and it fitting within the price point.
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See? There you go! An LED book light...
Great idea Chris. Simple and effective.
 
S16 Output Question

Hi All,
I don't have an S16 with me at home to test right now, so I'm hoping someone can answer my question.
Do the analog output delay settings apply just to the analog outs on the console? Or does that setting get applied to the S16 analog outs when you use those as well?
It looks like it does, but all it says on the AES50 routing page is "Out 1-8", etc.
Thanks,
Mark
 
Re: X32 Offline Scene File Editor

Mateusz Ciesiółka;47637 said:
If you're talking about Windows editor - it's not finished.

The only one working project now is online generator.
Here you are: x32.net16.net
But it is PDF generator only.
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Actually Mateusz, I aksed about the OFFLINE (as in, not on your X32 itself) SCENE FILE EDITOR that was being worked on.
Kevin already answered my question, but thanks. This looks interesting!
 
Re: Protected Scenes

This is so frustrating! The Producer console is even more perfect for this venue than the X-32, in that it is rack-mountable, smaller and cheaper. I don't need 32 XLR inputs, 16 is fine. And yet still the no-protected-scenes issue remains .............:thumbdown:

Mick Berg.:x~:-x~:mad:
 
Re: Protected Scenes

Mick Berg said:
This is so frustrating! The Producer console is even more perfect for this venue than the X-32, in that it is rack-mountable, smaller and cheaper. I don't need 32 XLR inputs, 16 is fine. And yet still the no-protected-scenes issue remains .............:thumbdown:

Mick Berg.:x~:-x~:mad:
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Don't confuse hardware and firmware. Introduction of new hardware means existing firmware has to be consolidated, and firmware upgrades are more likely to contain little new stuff for a duration. The V2 firmware will happen sooner or later, we just have to be patient and keep being constructive in our feedback. You haven't bought one yet, have you?
 
Re: Protected Scenes

I agree with Per again - be patient. I'm waiting on the exact same thing - a way to maintain some functionality while preventing meddling fingers from breaking something else like routing.

It has already been stated that all X32-based devices (the main, Core, Producer, Compact) will use the same firmware releases, so when these newer devices start getting sold they will be using the same 1.12 (or whatever version they're on at that point) as the main... By the same token, when protection gets implemented into the Firmware, it will apply to all.
 
Re: Protected Scenes

Sorry, I wasn't clear enough. There are two venues. One is a music auditorium where there is always a professional engineer (usually me), and it needs the full-blown X32, and will get one very soon.

The other is a H.O.W. where there won't be an engineer most of the time. This one could have used the X32, but it would have been overkill, and physically too big. But now Behringer comes up with the Producer, which is perfect! But it's also in this venue that the scene protection is vital.

Mick Berg.
 
Pre/post fader meters

Well I finally got my X32 in today and still have the same question: is it possible to have the meters show post fader levels? I couldn't find anything anywhere, but the block diagram in the manual looks like it indicates that post fader metering is possible. The only place I can see post fader metering mentioned is in the OSC manual.

If worse comes to worse I guess I have to write my own metering app and keep a computer next to the X32.

Thanks,

John S.
 
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