X32 Discussion

Re: UPS v Power conditioner

Right. Just to be clear though... a regular ups that "kicks in" the battery when needed, and does so within 20 milliseconds or less, will work fine with the x32, so the extra cost of those types of ups systems is unjustified.




With regard to USP, you are right and wrong at the same time.

Low end UPS are offline UPS, ie the batterys only supply power when input power falls below spec, most usually have some form of surge protection in them
Better, ONline UPS feed power out from the batterys all the time, so outgoing power is also isolated from incoming, these sort out over/under power, even frequency glitches and feed out a "perfect" power
IMO its large dips that are the biggest issue, a switch mode PSU can handle varying voltages pretty well without issue, but one of the venues I work in has had issues with other desks before with power "glitches" not a full blackout, but more than a brown out, analogue desks cope fine, but digis from various manufacturers have a tendancy to freeze or crash (one decided to go full fade on everything IIRC, not pleasent), A reboot in the middle of a musical is not what you want.
 
Re: X32 DAW/OSC Questions

I think you are very brave to consider this level of automation...

Hi Paul,

That's a very fair point, and one which is (or will be) very much subject to discussion and likely scrapping! I've been doing sound (and acting too!) for a couple of local community groups for 10+ years, and although this is my first time helping out this particular one, I've seen several of their productions in past years and worked (and acted) with many of the techs and actors before, and I'd be far more confident about their reliability than most, but mistakes (and technical failures) still happen.

As an imminent (today!) new X32 user and professional software engineer I was just excited and the possibilities and wanted to present some cleverer options, but I completely agree that reliability is paramount. Word is that we have a rockstar mixer operator lined up who isn't likely to balk at manually driving 26 faders on two banks, especially since we also have 8 DCAs to play with, which in the limit means 24 visible faders, and surely the ensemble presence in this show is such that we can group in the remaining two! (fingers crossed) so hopefully we won't need the full automation, but I'm going to try to make it work anyway if only as a technical exercise.

The 01V being in the band is more of a cabling issue, since the house snake is very limited, and passing all the band channels to the booth isn't going to happen. Word is that it's going to be a 15+ piece band, so we might end up using all of the 01V and the ADA8000 expansion. At the very least I should be able to provide remote control of those faders (although probably that's all), although I'm not sure if it's wise to do this from the X32 also using some more custom software to hook into the DAW Control stuff (although this means the same operator would have to drive it, and therefore take his ears off the vocals) or if it would be wiser for a separate person to do it from another computer or iDevice. Again, completely up for discussion and experimentation.

OK, this is getting way away from a pure X32 thread, so I'll stop now, but thank you very much for your input.

Simon
 
It's arrived

Seems to work so far, in that I can play a WAV off a USB stick, apply EQ and FX, and hear it through headphones.

Shame that the Gate/Ducker button sticks down if you push it all the way. If you push the Gate Threshold knob to the left gently, it pops out again. Which sucks. But it's avoidable (by not pressing the button so hard) and I love the rest of it.

All the other buttons knobs and faders are fine.

Note that it has a build date of 10/12, which seems quite old. Serial # on request (starts with S121). It also came with Firmware 1.09 (although I have updated it to 1.13).

I bought it from ZZounds. I'm just surprised they have stock that old...
 
Re: It's arrived

Question on Routing... Using the X32 and 1 S16. I need to hook into a clubs PA and the Crossover is at FOH. On our system the xover is in one of the amp racks so we just run a cable to the rack from the S16. How can I route Output 8 so that it comes from the desk while leaving everything else where it is?
 
Re: It's arrived

Question on Routing... Using the X32 and 1 S16. I need to hook into a clubs PA and the Crossover is at FOH. On our system the xover is in one of the amp racks so we just run a cable to the rack from the S16. How can I route Output 8 so that it comes from the desk while leaving everything else where it is?

I believe the outputs are still active on the desk when using S16's; they are just mirrored at the S16 in the way you program it in the ROUTING page, AES50 (AorB) tab.

So just connect it up.
 
Re: It's arrived

Consulting the manual, perhaps?

Are you suggesting that I should stop asking questions from the knowledgeable folks in here and read the manual? LOL Should I read it, think I understand it, then head off to a show and hope I got it right? Or should I ask a question and get several nice people to give me the correct answer and not look like an idiot in front of a club owner and a crowd!
 
Re: It's arrived

Are you suggesting that I should stop asking questions from the knowledgeable folks in here and read the manual? LOL Should I read it, think I understand it, then head off to a show and hope I got it right? Or should I ask a question and get several nice people to give me the correct answer and not look like an idiot in front of a club owner and a crowd!

Yes and no. Read the manual first and then try out what you need to learn. If things don't work the way you expected them to and you get stumped, post a question.

IOW, do you own homework.

Tim "certified grumpy old soundguy" Mc
 
Re: It's arrived

Are you suggesting that I should stop asking questions from the knowledgeable folks in here and read the manual? LOL Should I read it, think I understand it, then head off to a show and hope I got it right? Or should I ask a question and get several nice people to give me the correct answer and not look like an idiot in front of a club owner and a crowd!

Much better then to look like an idiot in front of this crowd ;)~;-)~:wink:

Seriously though, the manual leaves something to be desired, when looking for answers you get a lot of what seems like sales pitch instead of the hard facts one is looking for, so resorting to the forum quickly becomes the viable option. Tim will of course get his whip out every time a newbie asks a question that frankly shouldn't need to be answered, and I would suggest that anybody attempting to use the mixer without having a thorough read of the manual are doing themselves no favour and frankly are showing a hint of lazyness.
Moral: Don't be afraid to ask, but do your homework like any good boy :)~:)~:smile:
 
Re: It's arrived

Much better then to look like an idiot in front of this crowd ;)~;-)~:wink:

Some of us don't worry about that, and I was simply trying to help a fellow non-worrier.

Seriously though, the manual leaves something to be desired...

To say the least.

This forum is a much better manual than the manual, but has a very, very low signal/noise ratio when trying to find the answer to a specific question. For example, I believe Billy's specific question was answered within what I would consider to be "the last few pages", although in reality it could have been 10 pages ago.

When I started posting here, I was planning on using it as kind of a repository of everything that I've discovered about the console and its outboard gear, but found to my chagrin that "see all user's posts" only means the last 20 or so; the rest are down in the murk.

While typing that I realized that I hadn't tried "search"; doing so pretty easily finds a post that I was wondering about, so maybe this thread plus "Search" is the Real User Manual.

Maybe Grumpy McGrump should use that as a stock response to the kids on his lawn? The rest of us could encourage the search habit, too.

PS As of last night, I am the proud borrower of a fully-equipped Fluke DTX-1800 super cable analyzer for the next two weeks to get familiar with before our CAT cable workshop, so I can converse with and moderate the experts.