X32 Discussion
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Re: X32 Discussion
Bullshit. The word clock has zero affect on actual audio. Believe whatever you *think* you hear, but scientifically it's impossible, and when you remove the 'sample bias' of knowing which source is clocked by what device, listening tests are generally no better than random guesses.
Bullshit. The word clock has zero affect on actual audio. Believe whatever you *think* you hear, but scientifically it's impossible, and when you remove the 'sample bias' of knowing which source is clocked by what device, listening tests are generally no better than random guesses.
Actually an external clock can only make audio worse, not better. This is because an external clock is not used to clock a unit but so synchronize the internal clock of a unit to another unit. Sometimes scientifically worse audio (colored) is perceived as better but that's another story.
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Re: X32 Discussion
Ah, the "external clock to make the mixer sound better" myth again...
Re: XLR Input Connectors - Which pin is hot?
I guess, that XLRs in X32 are connected as it should be, so:
Input has female socket
left pin (2) is positive (hot)
lower pin (3) is negative (cold)
right pin (1) is ground
Hope it helps.
I guess, that XLRs in X32 are connected as it should be, so:
Input has female socket
left pin (2) is positive (hot)
lower pin (3) is negative (cold)
right pin (1) is ground
Hope it helps.
Re: XLR Input Connectors - Which pin is hot?
Behringer normally include a XLR and jack wiring page in their mixer manuals.
It's missing from the X32 one.
Going by the manuals for the Behringer mixers I have owned (several models, large and small), they seem to follow the above convention of 2 = hot, 3 = cold, 1 = ground.
Unless they've adopted a new standard for the X32 and not told anyone, it would be fair to assume that they've kept to the same configuration.
Karl.
Behringer normally include a XLR and jack wiring page in their mixer manuals.
It's missing from the X32 one.
Going by the manuals for the Behringer mixers I have owned (several models, large and small), they seem to follow the above convention of 2 = hot, 3 = cold, 1 = ground.
Unless they've adopted a new standard for the X32 and not told anyone, it would be fair to assume that they've kept to the same configuration.
Karl.
Re: XLR Input Connectors - Which pin is hot?
Thanks guys
Yes - I'd also consulted the manual and wiki etc.
I have some old gear that's wires pin 3 hot and now I know phase reversal is in my future
Pauly
Thanks guys
Yes - I'd also consulted the manual and wiki etc.
I have some old gear that's wires pin 3 hot and now I know phase reversal is in my future
Pauly
Re: XLR Input Connectors - Which pin is hot?
If this is the usual signal processing gear, e.g. you're taking XLR into and out of it, it won't matter. It only makes a difference if you're going to or from an unbalanced source, e.g. a DI.
Thanks guys
Yes - I'd also consulted the manual and wiki etc.
I have some old gear that's wires pin 3 hot and now I know phase reversal is in my future
If this is the usual signal processing gear, e.g. you're taking XLR into and out of it, it won't matter. It only makes a difference if you're going to or from an unbalanced source, e.g. a DI.
Re: firmware 1.15 bug with aux in remap to aes50 channels - all preamp gains linked
Sorry to bump my own thread here, but would some cat from Behringher please speak into this for just a second? Please?
Sorry to bump my own thread here, but would some cat from Behringher please speak into this for just a second? Please?
Re: Crackling burst with X32/S16
Hi Timo,
I have the same problem. I would descripe the noise as a TV showing snow after you fall asleep. It is coming out of out15/16 and also out of the P16M connected to the ultranet.
Hi Timo,
I have the same problem. I would descripe the noise as a TV showing snow after you fall asleep. It is coming out of out15/16 and also out of the P16M connected to the ultranet.
Re: firmware 1.15 bug with aux in remap to aes50 channels - all preamp gains linked
Just realized there is an update to 2.1.2, I was running 2.1.1 - I'll have another look at this weekend's gig.
Just realized there is an update to 2.1.2, I was running 2.1.1 - I'll have another look at this weekend's gig.
Re: firmware 1.15 bug with aux in remap to aes50 channels - all preamp gains linked
Was testing a couple of things earlier tonight, including your "bug" that I couldn't replicate. You didn't clearly mention that it was when running a remote application, so I didn't try that.
Was testing a couple of things earlier tonight, including your "bug" that I couldn't replicate. You didn't clearly mention that it was when running a remote application, so I didn't try that.
S16 clicks and noisebursts and other problems.
I tried hard today to create some problems.
Connected the S16 with a cheapo Cat5e STP, let the S16 share outlet with a 4/8 KW amp that I would turn off and on, repatching, changing gains, shaking the cat5, turning off and on lights, firing up a fifty year old hand drill, dimming a high power led par right next to the S16 sharing the same outlet, turning phantom on and off (slight pop as always).
Sadly, mission failed completely. No noise, no flicker in the sync light.
I tried hard today to create some problems.
Connected the S16 with a cheapo Cat5e STP, let the S16 share outlet with a 4/8 KW amp that I would turn off and on, repatching, changing gains, shaking the cat5, turning off and on lights, firing up a fifty year old hand drill, dimming a high power led par right next to the S16 sharing the same outlet, turning phantom on and off (slight pop as always).
Sadly, mission failed completely. No noise, no flicker in the sync light.
Re: S16 clicks and noisebursts and other problems.
Do you have anything with a compressor or some other large motor that turns on/off like that? Do you have a variac? It would be interesting to see what happens when the voltage is already low-ish and you do the things that you describe.
Although.... the definition of when the console restarts is somewhere around 95 volts (recalling from memory). When starting as you are from 240v (is that what it is there?), that is much farther of a drop than our starting point of 110-120v. Wonder if that makes any difference.
I don't have a clue of what it takes to mess up the S16.
Dan
Do you have anything with a compressor or some other large motor that turns on/off like that? Do you have a variac? It would be interesting to see what happens when the voltage is already low-ish and you do the things that you describe.
Although.... the definition of when the console restarts is somewhere around 95 volts (recalling from memory). When starting as you are from 240v (is that what it is there?), that is much farther of a drop than our starting point of 110-120v. Wonder if that makes any difference.
I don't have a clue of what it takes to mess up the S16.
Dan
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Re: Recording
We had a show last weekend with 4 separate artists. Two of them had their own BE's and I mixed the other two. Both BE's had not use an X32 but were willing to try it. Both liked what they heard, and had an easy time getting around on it.
One wanted to record multi-track to his laptop, which I encouraged him to do although I know next to nothing about details of doing so. He had a Firewire cable and all he needed to get it connected.
He said at first he was only getting two tracks, but, thanks to this thread, I knew enough to tell him there was a menu somewhere which allowed him to chose two- track or multi-. He found it and did his thing.
I found out yesterday that his tracks came through clean and at good level, and he is sending them to band management in hopes he gets a recording gig. (He seems to be a recording guy as much as live.)
So that was nice.
We had a show last weekend with 4 separate artists. Two of them had their own BE's and I mixed the other two. Both BE's had not use an X32 but were willing to try it. Both liked what they heard, and had an easy time getting around on it.
One wanted to record multi-track to his laptop, which I encouraged him to do although I know next to nothing about details of doing so. He had a Firewire cable and all he needed to get it connected.
He said at first he was only getting two tracks, but, thanks to this thread, I knew enough to tell him there was a menu somewhere which allowed him to chose two- track or multi-. He found it and did his thing.
I found out yesterday that his tracks came through clean and at good level, and he is sending them to band management in hopes he gets a recording gig. (He seems to be a recording guy as much as live.)
So that was nice.
Re: S16 clicks and noisebursts and other problems.
~:-D~:grin: I have a 1.5KW compressor and a welder that I could employ, but that hardly seems representative for what I'm likely to ever encounter on a showstage.
I have some Showtech light dimmers that might do the job, so I guess I could make a dmx sequence that simulates a typical brownout. I am running the X32 off a UPS, and have already established that running without might have caused a couple of hangups in the past when an old AC-unit was starting and stopping. The S16 seems to be less sensitive, and so far I've been running without any UPS or surge protector. Since I'm running only one S16 in the basic configuration, it always stay in mode 1, so even a stage power failure will only be an intermittent problem as the S16 will always come back up in the right configuration. Getting some noise if the stage goes dead seems acceptable (maybe even desirable as it tells the audience that a real problem just occurred :razz: ).
Anyway, I feel I can be quite confident in stating that barring major failures or a cable getting pulled, the system is stable. Anyway, I feel I can be quite confident in stating that barring major failures or a cable getting pulled, the system is stable. Maybe not bullet-proof, but stable to a reasonably high degree.
I've got 12 compressors in my rack and all the built-in compressors in the X32
~:-D~:grin: I have a 1.5KW compressor and a welder that I could employ, but that hardly seems representative for what I'm likely to ever encounter on a showstage.I have some Showtech light dimmers that might do the job, so I guess I could make a dmx sequence that simulates a typical brownout. I am running the X32 off a UPS, and have already established that running without might have caused a couple of hangups in the past when an old AC-unit was starting and stopping. The S16 seems to be less sensitive, and so far I've been running without any UPS or surge protector. Since I'm running only one S16 in the basic configuration, it always stay in mode 1, so even a stage power failure will only be an intermittent problem as the S16 will always come back up in the right configuration. Getting some noise if the stage goes dead seems acceptable (maybe even desirable as it tells the audience that a real problem just occurred :razz: ).
Anyway, I feel I can be quite confident in stating that barring major failures or a cable getting pulled, the system is stable. Anyway, I feel I can be quite confident in stating that barring major failures or a cable getting pulled, the system is stable. Maybe not bullet-proof, but stable to a reasonably high degree.
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Re: S16 clicks and noisebursts and other problems.
A few month ago I had noise on my system. Two S16 were located close to a rack of wireless receivers. There were 24 receivers, sennheisers g1 to g3, some AKGs, all with the buildin antennas. I repositioned the S16s by moving them half a meter away from the receivers and then everything was fine. Maybe the S16s are not 100% resistant against electro smog like this.
A few month ago I had noise on my system. Two S16 were located close to a rack of wireless receivers. There were 24 receivers, sennheisers g1 to g3, some AKGs, all with the buildin antennas. I repositioned the S16s by moving them half a meter away from the receivers and then everything was fine. Maybe the S16s are not 100% resistant against electro smog like this.
Re: S16 clicks and noisebursts and other problems.
Wouldn't the interference be coming from the transmitters, not the receivers? If there were any unused transmitters (like waiting for an actor to pick them up, like theater does it), where were they in relation to the S16's?
That's an interesting data point, though, thanks for posting it.
Wouldn't the interference be coming from the transmitters, not the receivers? If there were any unused transmitters (like waiting for an actor to pick them up, like theater does it), where were they in relation to the S16's?
That's an interesting data point, though, thanks for posting it.