Behringer iNUKE NU6000 amplifier

Re: Behringer iNUKE NU6000 amplifier

Hey, today I :

#1 Received a reply from Full Compass saying it would be at least three months before the NU6000 starts shipping

... and ...

#2 Received a tracking number from the place I had ordered one from a couple weeks ago.

Which should i believe?

:?~:-?~:???:8O~8-O~:shock::D~:-D~:grin:
 
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I would believe what I hold in my hands...

It does appear somebody is in error.

You will know better pretty soon who is more deserving of trust.

JR
 
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Yah, I emailed Full Compass figuring they'd be one of the most reliable sources of info :?~:-?~:???: . So far it's just a Tracking number and UPS hasn't actually received the package yet.
 
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Doubling cones adds 3 dB, if those cones are powered up with additional power, that nets 6 dB. assuming you add more power when you add another cabinet, the addition should net 3 dB more.

IIRC you usually are in a narrow room, as you stack the subs up they will get more directive vertically, so the net difference may be more than calculated.

Ok thanks Art, I wasn't sure because people were telling me because i've already got 2 SRX728S and would only be adding 1 more, i'd not get the usual spl increase that comes from doubling the cones and wattage. But 3db sounds ok by me.
 
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Hi Richard,

Considering you are experiencing financial difficulties why not rent a proper amp in the meantime? This will allow you to a) conserve cashflow in the short term; b) evaluate different amp models; c) save for the best amp for the job.

Chur
 
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Yesterday they refunded me for the NU6000 I ordered so I ordered up an NU3000 which is actually in stock and according to UPS is in their hands as I "speak". I found some measurements made by a German magazine for it:

Peak power 20ms/1000Hz
8 Ohm 2x465
4 Ohm 2x870
2 Ohm 2x1700

RMS (sine wave)
8 Ohm 2x312
4 Ohm 2x600 (2x375 after 3 seconds)
2 Ohm 2x1176 (2x750 after 1 second, protect after 5 seconds)

Those specs look fine for my application of bridging one into a pair of TH-Mini's without an external limiter. That should keep up fine with my new RCF 310A's :) .

I really wish Danley would offer a 4 ohm version of the TH-Mini - that would be much easier to power without having to bridge something ...
 
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Maybe you could find some Behringer speakers.
All my 'ringer speakers are powered and quite serviceable (B412DSP's + two pair B208D's in black and white). This particular rig will have RCF 310A's on top, 8 custom coaxial Ramsdell monitors plus 2-4 stand mounted PR10's or B208D's as spot monitors for the keys and possibly Texas headphones for the drummer. When hell finally freezes over and the IPR6000 ships that might replace the NU3000 on sub duty as I have two IPR1600's on monitors and those three in a Gator GR-6S will make for a ~40 lb rack :D .

BTW I last ran the B412DSP's over a pair of Rog 186's outdoors at a large fairgrounds and was finally able to get them to flash their limiters :cool: . They're as stoopid loud as they are stoopid heavy :lol: .
 
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How about a Peavey IPR-6000? it's still not as many watts as you want, but 2000 is at least respectable, and it's close to your price range.


Jim,

Have you seen any Peavey dealers that have IPR-6000s in stock? I work for a peavey dealer and Peavey has been telling us the IPR6000 was on back order since it was introduced........
 
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Jim, Have you seen any Peavey dealers that have IPR-6000s in stock? I work for a peavey dealer and Peavey has been telling us the IPR6000 was on back order since it was introduced........
The 4500 and 6000 are now the 5000 and 7500 and due in mid January last I knew...
 
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Thought I would provide some feedback of my experience with an INUKE 6000 DSP.
I run a small company specialising in live sound, we seem to do mostly rock.
I like many others have mixed feelings about behringers products, I have both good and bad experiences. Their analogue mixers I find to be unreliable, I have about 5 with misc faults whereas my soundcraft and Allen Heath have been A1. The Behringer amps, compressors and eq's I have are reliable. I will never buy another analogue mixer from Behringer.
I bought the Inuke due to it's great spec and price and weight. It is so good on paper thought I would try one.
I first tried into a pair of 2X18" 2KW Rms. subs. So 4 ohms per side stereo. Now I don't know how to test amps, the only tool I have is my ears. I found the amp to be louder than my peavey pv2600 and delivered powerful great sounding bass.
Then we used it on an install at a venue where it drives a pair of 2x15" subs which are rated at 1200W RMS each. (again stereo 4 ohm per side)
We have now done around a dozen shows and the amp has been fine so far. This amp runs cool no matter how hard you drive it. It is loud, it is getting the job done. Looks like a great buy to me.
I Would like to see an independant test of its claimed output power ( the RMS ones). If they are correct or even close then this amp looks to be a bargain.
 
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In March of this year, I purchased 2 of the NU6000 (non-DSP) amps that had just become available to drive some JBL SRX728 subs during the SXSW festival here in Austin, as my Itech 8000s that I usually use on subs were to be used elsewhere. I set the limiters on my Ashley crossover to prevent clipping the inputs of the amps. The amps were driven hard on sub duty for 2 days from noon 'til midnight and they were great! There was plenty of power for the 728s and they were still running cool at the end of the day.

I have been using them on sub duty for about 6 months now with no problems. I sold my 2 IT8000s for nearly $4k and paid less than $400 for each NU6000. I haven't done any measurements, but I suspect the 3000 watt/channel number may be peak power. Still, they seemed to supply plenty of power. I'm looking forward to the four channel (NU4-6000) which should put out about 1500 watts/channel (peak?) into a 4 ohm load.

Well, I guess the cat is out of the bag now!

Mike Roam
Sundown Pro Audio
Austin, TX
 
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FYI a NU6000 appears to be two bridged NU3000's in one chassis. Some real measurements that a German magazine did measured:

Peak power 20ms/1000Hz
8 Ohm 2x465
4 Ohm 2x870
2 Ohm 2x1700

RMS (sine wave)
8 Ohm 2x312
4 Ohm 2x600 (2x375 after 3 seconds)
2 Ohm 2x1176 (2x750 after 1 second, protect after 5 seconds)

This implies that the NU6000 puts out 1200 w/ch into 8 ohms and 2352 w/ch into 4 ohms. I own a NU3000 that I use bridged into a pair of Danley TH-Mini's and unbridged to drive a pair of 4 ohm folded horns I have. Driving the latter which have 800w drivers I often have the clip limiters flashing pretty good :D but the amp only does 600w into each so no prob. I try to take it easier with the Mini's as they are only rated at 700w and I'm feeding them 1176w each :) .
 
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Just got a 3000 today. Will try it on multiple boxes. Behringer subs,Danley subs, Comm SLS960's, different bass cabinets, monitors, JBL subs... Whatever I have around.
 
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We've used a few 6000's to supplement our amp racks on some of our busy weeks this summer, quite happy with the price/performance ratio. The biggest job we put them on was to drive a 728/channel for a B stage at a local ribfest, they ran all day in the middle of July with no failures. They don't quite pack the punch of the XTi4000s that are typically used in our B setup, but they are a great utility amp for monitors and dry rentals (if someone manages to blow one up, we are only out for the dealer cost of the unit).
 
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We've used a few 6000's ................... They don't quite pack the punch of the XTi4000s ..............

Sorry to hear that. My XTi4000s "punch" isn't a very high bar to match. In fact my IPR3k seems to hit a lot harder - even accounting for less watts.

Really looking forward to John Chiara's impressions / review of the NU6000. Now that Uli has broken the ice perhaps folks will be more willing to discuss Behringer products for what they are.........whatever that may be. ;~)

Sorry, I ment to write : review of NU3000 not 6000.
 
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^ I assume a XTI4000 is bridged into each sub vs a NU6000 driving two ? That would account for the XTI having more power. I also have an IPR3000 I've used on my big pair of 4 ohm horn subs and it did seem to hit hard compared to the NU3000 but it was at different locations some time apart so I can't swear to it. I haven't directly A/B'd the XTI4000 in stereo against either but the one I once played with seemed a bit "meh" on subs. OTOH the IPR3000 quite impressed me :) . Even driving TH-Mini's in stereo (you can't "officially" bridge an IPR3000) the IPR3000 did the job even though that is only about 450 w into each.