New Midas M32 Console

Re: Not A Pleasant First Outing with the M32

Max Warasila said:
You know, I personally have never understood why on earth you would under power the LEDs. I mean, they're so cheap. I understand that the cost to consumer is much more than the cost of manufacturing, but it can't be that significant, even if you had to increase some part of the PSU and etching to handle it (once again, seemingly negligible to me).
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most LEDs are capable of being even brighter. Simply using a smaller current limiting resistor gets you there. We have some small SMT LEDs that are so bright it hurts to stare at them.... And they are cheep.
 
Re: New Midas M32 Console

Bob Harvey said:
Sam ... were you able to use X32-Q with the Midas ?

Have you installed firmware v2.08 yet ?

Thanks
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hi my console is currently away having a custom flightcase built so haven't updated yet.. I haven't tried Q on it i don't have any reason for it I cant see why it wouldn't work..
Im gonna make some more videos once i get her back in her new flightcase..
regards
sam
 
Re: New Midas M32 Console

My understanding of the 96k point is that it is solely marketing. We had an M32 and rep and VP recently.

It's not a bad board, but is easily overshadowed. If you want features for cheap, and are willing to settle for a compromised interface, iffy faders, iffy AES50 physical connectors, and good-enough sound- get an X32. If you need all that minus the drawbacks, get a Pro series.

We did another comparison in house (not a live band), and could definitely hear differences between Pro, M32, and X32. The M32 is close to the Pro series in sound, but doesn't have sample synch or 96k; my guess is the phase compensation is the key factor.
In the MI world, the goal is to sell product X because it's low cost. Then later on, Y (or M) because it's slightly better than X. Rarely getting to Z, as that is the line between MI and Pro, pun intended.

This is aimed squarely at those who like the X32 but want a better badge. It doesn't seem to be aimed at those who like the Pro series but want the same general family but cheaper, that is the Pro1.

Preferences.
 
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I don't think this phase compensation thing is worth getting too hyped about. Nifty sure, nice feature... But I imagine it can only matter when summing like sources like output matrices, parallel compression, external inserts and etc. You aren't going to just hear it out of the blue. Am I right here?
 
Re: Not A Pleasant First Outing with the M32

I hate to say it but the knobs on the upper section look a bit " Fisher Price" to me.
 
Re: Not A Pleasant First Outing with the M32

Scott Bolt said:
most LEDs are capable of being even brighter. Simply using a smaller current limiting resistor gets you there. We have some small SMT LEDs that are so bright it hurts to stare at them.... And they are cheep.
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It's not the brightness of a LEDs, it's the design of the buttons itself. What was the point of making them solid black with pinhole opening for light? Looks cool, but plain stupid to me. The X32 (original with transparent buttons) and even Presonus SL (a rudimentary board compare to M32) has better buttons: bright, with names clearly printed on the top.
 
Re: Not A Pleasant First Outing with the M32

Dear Bob,

Unfortunately X32-Q does not work with the M32. M32-CUE is in the final stages of development and will be released shortly. It will be available for download from our website as soon as it's ready. I'll also post an announcement here and on our social media sites.

Regarding the faders – by chance were you running different scenes and had a Channel / Parameter Safe selected or a Scene Safe engaged? I'd be happy to take a look at your show file or help you out however I can.

Best,
Chase McKnight
Specialist, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
MIDAS
 
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Chase,

Wow! That's amazing. I didn't even check to see it X32-Q would work the the M32 since everything else seemed to work both ways. Glad I didn't take the board out with all of my musicians expecting to be able to manage their own mixes. Any idea how soon before it's ready for download?

Art
 
M32 / X32 De-Essing

This is an issue for me with the X32 and wonder if anyone has a solid work around for the X or M series. I love de-essers and it looks like the only way to use one of any sort in the box is by killing an FX slot and routing out and back with an Aux. This is a big deal to me. I really hate to waste channels for something like this.

I've been a Yamaha user for several years and looking to make the jump to the M32, but I'm only hung up on this one thing. I do realize that this console is going to be a million times warmer than the Yamaha and won't need to use as many as I am now. I'll probably only want them available for the 5 main vocals.

I guess I need to find a way around the FX 1-4 (BUSSES and Channels) & FX 5-8 (Only Busses). Looks the only way around this is to carry a rack of outboard FX. What I need is 8 mono EQ's for 7 monitor mixes and 1 Fill, a Stereo EQ for LR, 3 FX Sends and then the Dual Mono Deesser to be inserted into a channel. This is the closest that I can get…

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Re: M32 / X32 De-Essing

You can use their dual de-esser on FX5-8 as an insert and return it back to the original channel. Since it's a dual de-esser, you will need only 2 FX channels for 4 channels or 3 for 5 channels. Of you can route your vocals to a bus and use it on the Bus and only use 2 FX channels.

Art
 
Re: M32 / X32 De-Essing

Art Nadelman said:
You can use their dual de-esser on FX5-8 as an insert and return it back to the original channel. Since it's a dual de-esser, you will need only 2 FX channels for 4 channels or 3 for 5 channels. Of you can route your vocals to a bus and use it on the Bus and only use 2 FX channels.

Art
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...and since the compressor has a sidechain you can set it up so that it will function as an de-esser.
 
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Remiving those pesky xlr latches

I took the time and removed my xlr latches since I hate latches on consoles and stageboxes.

I tried to document the process, but having the tools in one hand and the camera in the other made it slightly difficult :eek:~:-o~:eek:.

http://youtu.be/os-tpWad7Uc

Anyway, I hope it will help someone else if they want to remove those latches.

I didn't document on how to open the console/s16 but that should be pretty straight forward. If not, then you shouldn't perform this operation anyway...:blush:
 
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Re: Remiving those pesky xlr latches

Robert Lofgren said:
I took the time and removed my xlr latches since I hate latches on consoles and stageboxes.

I tried to document the process, but having the tools in one hand and the camera in the other made it slightly difficult :eek:~:-o~:eek:.

http://youtu.be/os-tpWad7Uc

Anyway, I hope it will help someone else if they want to remove those latches.

I didn't document on how to open the console/s16 but that should be pretty straight forward. If not, then you shouldn't perform this operation anyway...:blush:
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I like the "David Lynch" approach - well done!
 
Re: M32 / X32 De-Essing

Robert Lofgren said:
...and since the compressor has a sidechain you can set it up so that it will function as an de-esser.
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Thing is, you can key the compressor for the offending frequencies, but as long as you only use one channel, it won't do you all that much good because it will be the same eq on both paths.
However, there shouldn't be a need to waste 5 stereo slots on graphic eq, so I'm sure the OP can get his need for de-essers covered just fine with what's available.
 
Re: M32 / X32 De-Essing

Per Søvik said:
However, there shouldn't be a need to waste 5 stereo slots on graphic eq, so I'm sure the OP can get his need for de-essers covered just fine with what's available.
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It's just something to get familiar with, but I can live with 6 bands of parametric eq on the outputs... I never use graphic eq's...
I used to have klark DN9340, only used the parametric part.
 
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