New Midas M32 Console

Re: Bottom Clearance for Fan?

Does this desk need clearance on the bottom for a vent fan like the X32?

As Daniel already stated, the M32's fan is located on the bottom of the desk so please ensure there is sufficient space underneath to allow for some airflow.

Best,
Chase McKnight
Specialist, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
MIDAS
 
Test results from PP mag are out

Just finished reading the M32 test from Production Partner mag Germany.
The console behaves exactly like promised by Midas. Every audio aspect ( THD, THD+N, DIM ) is improved at least 10dB over the X32.

So thanks to all you guys out there reporting better audio quality on the M32, you are backed up by measurement data now :)~:-)~:smile:
I would love if someone could compare the headphone amps of both consoles with low impedance cans like HD25.

IMO the DL16 will make a very nice upgrade path for X32, as soon as they are available :(~:-(~:sad:

Uwe
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

Just finished reading the M32 test from Production Partner mag Germany.
The console behaves exactly like promised by Midas. Every audio aspect ( THD, THD+N, DIM ) is improved at least 10dB over the X32.

So thanks to all you guys out there reporting better audio quality on the M32, you are backed up by measurement data now :)~:-)~:smile:
I would love if someone could compare the headphone amps of both consoles with low impedance cans like HD25.

IMO the DL16 will make a very nice upgrade path for X32, as soon as they are available :(~:-(~:sad:

Uwe


have you got the english translation of that article I only have a german version.
Also i can tell you the headphone output is really quiet with HD25's. Had to crank right up in the settings.
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

have you got the english translation of that article I only have a german version.
Sorry Sam, no English version: In case you missed it, German is my mother tongue

Also i can tell you the headphone output is really quiet with HD25's. Had to crank right up in the settings.
Same on the X, my digital trim always lives at +10dB, but the specs are different, thats why Im curious
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

They have now the user manual on the web site.

http://www.midasconsoles.com/Products/M32.aspx

Anyone has experience with the console? i just read the test report in german Production Partner magazin. very good report and seems M32 is better than X32.

J

We had a demo desk for a few weeks as well as 4 of them pass thru the shop eventually making it to our customers. I can say the desk is a GREAT upgrade from the X32. Yes it is the same OS, but everything else has been redone very nicely. When you "bog" the desk down with a lot of IO and processing it still performs great. The X32 seems to lag quit a bit when you do the same.

The faders are a BIG upgrade, along with the mic pre's, internal processing power, and real neutrik connectors.
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

We had a demo desk for a few weeks as well as 4 of them pass thru the shop eventually making it to our customers. I can say the desk is a GREAT upgrade from the X32. Yes it is the same OS, but everything else has been redone very nicely. When you "bog" the desk down with a lot of IO and processing it still performs great. The X32 seems to lag quit a bit when you do the same.

The faders are a BIG upgrade, along with the mic pre's, internal processing power, and real neutrik connectors.

Here is the final word directly from the horse's mouth:
The M32 is using the exact same processing engine and OS as X32.

You cannot "bog the desk down with a lot of IO and processing" as the entire audio-engine is running the full processing cycle all the time--unlike a PC-DAW using plugins.

The M32 upgrades are considerable, but purely hardware related. The complete design of faders, input boards, and especially the output boards is new - and of course the industrial design.

Jan Duwe
Senior Engineer, Conception
MUSIC Group Services EU GmbH

 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

I hate knowingly adding fuel to the fire, but from a perception standpoint, in tense situations with a full workload it might seem or appear that the desk is bogged down simply because your perception and expectations of time has changed. If that happens for you, that is.
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

Here is the final word directly from the horse's mouth:

So Jan finally confirmed it :)~:-)~:smile:

There are forum members at other forums that claim they have spoken to developers at Midas in England, being told stories about Midas developing the X32, giving it to Behringer and then making an upgraded version with more processing power, the M32. :lol:
I think I saw a claim somewhere that the M32 sounded better even when both were using a 251 stagebox or both processing digital stuff off a computer.
X32 getting bogged down? Nobody ever made that claim until now, but that doesn't stop people having the perception that screen-changes are smoother along with all else that is perceived as "better" just because the console looks good and the faders might move smoother. "If it looks better it is better" ;)~;-)~:wink:
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

So Jan finally confirmed it :)~:-)~:smile:

There are forum members at other forums that claim they have spoken to developers at Midas in England, being told stories about Midas developing the X32, giving it to Behringer and then making an upgraded version with more processing power, the M32. :lol:
Any links?

I think I saw a claim somewhere that the M32 sounded better even when both were using a 251 stagebox or both processing digital stuff off a computer.
That may very well be the case. According to Jan "especially the output boards is new". So this could have a 'big' impact on the sound.

X32 getting bogged down? Nobody ever made that claim until now, but that doesn't stop people having the perception that screen-changes are smoother along with all else that is perceived as "better" just because the console looks good and the faders might move smoother. "If it looks better it is better" ;)~;-)~:wink:
Actually, a big company starting with the letter 'P' stated something like that. While not directly mentioning the x32 it was quite obvious what they meant...
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

Any links?
Sorry, can't remember where it was, it could have been on Facebook.


That may very well be the case. According to Jan "especially the output boards is new". So this could have a 'big' impact on the sound.
Again, I don't remember where I read it, but I assumed that both boards also used the 251 for output. Anyway, from the description I dismissed the whole exercise as rubbish and never paid any attention.

Anyway, it has been quite clear for a while now that the DL16 is going to be a big seller to X32 owners that wish to get the most from their board, and it is going to be interesting to see if there is a difference between the DL16 and the other DLs, prompting a rush of DL15x and DL25x orders.
My guess is that there will be claims of better sound even if they are absolutely equal, but I suspect I'll be quite happy to round off my X32 related purchases with a DL16.

Actually, a big company starting with the letter 'P' stated something like that. While not directly mentioning the x32 it was quite obvious what they meant
The early comparison between the P.. offering and "The competition" had so many errors that I think they actually modified the later version to not include the most stupid ones.
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

Any links?


That may very well be the case. According to Jan "especially the output boards is new". So this could have a 'big' impact on the sound.

I am always suspicious of claims about 'big' sonic impact or differences. The x-32 path is generally regarded as flat and accurate, so to sound very different from that would not come from being more accurate. We already have heard that the Midas mic preamp has a soft limiter built in so that will sound different if over-driven. If the midas outputs are more robust there may be some marginal applications where that could make a difference.

The improved look and feel should be enough for many.

JR
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

I am always suspicious of claims about 'big' sonic impact or differences. The x-32 path is generally regarded as flat and accurate, so to sound very different from that would not come from being more accurate. We already have heard that the Midas mic preamp has a soft limiter built in so that will sound different if over-driven. If the midas outputs are more robust there may be some marginal applications where that could make a difference.

The improved look and feel should be enough for many.

JR
I was thinking the better warranty (full "bumper to bumper" 3 year vs 1 year on the X32 .... and then 3 years on the non-moving parts) along with the "MIDAS" sticker would be the main attractions ;) The faders SHOULD be more robust; however, that hasn't been the case with the few I have heard about so far on the forums.
 
Re: Test results from PP mag are out

... the desk is a GREAT upgrade from the X32.

I don't think it's such a great upgrade from the X32 when you can't see the SEL or User Assign buttons outside in overcast sky. That's a serious design omission.

The back lit gel SELECT buttons on the X32 are significantly easier to see outside.