X32 Discussion
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Nick
Is there any guide re using this (or could someone explain how)?- noticed was not in the "engineers " quick start
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Nick
Re: X32 Discussion
Dear Nick,
As we implemented the crossover feature in a firmware update, we had not included it in the X32 Engineer's Quick Start Guide which was finished before the firmware update. We plan to update the guide soon to account for new features, but for now here are the steps:
The crossover features are inside of the parametric EQ on the 6 matrix mixes. In order to utilize them you will need send your Main Mix to Matrix mixes and feed your speakers from there.
1. If you are running your tops in stereo, you will need to link pairs of matrix mixes together for them, using two for highs (matrix 1-2) and one for lows (matrix 3). For the rest of this example, we will assume a mono system running to matrix 1 (lows) and 2 (highs).
2. Select the Main LR Mix and use the Bus Send encoders in the channel strip to send it to matrix mixes 1 & 2
3. Select matrix 1 (located on layer 4 of the output faders) and press VIEW on the Parametric EQ section of the channel strip. Don't forget to turn the PEQ on.
4. Press the LAYER Down key until the mode controls becomes available on the rotary encoders beneath the screen (you will not find the crossover filters if you press the dedicated MODE button in the channel strip)
5. Rotate the 6th encoder (high band) and choose your crossover for the the high-cut filter. You will see options for Butterworth (BU), Bessel (BS), and Linkwitz Riley (LR). Now choose your frequency for this band (this can be done from the channel strip like usual).
6. Select matrix 2 and press VIEW on the Parametric EQ section of the channel strip. Don't forget to turn the PEQ on.
7. Rotate the 1st encoder (low band) and choose your crossover for the low-cut filter. Then choose the frequency, which you will likely want to be the same frequency you choose previously.
8. Go to the ROUTING menu and assign Matrix 1 and 2 to the desired analog / aux outputs to feed your Main Top / Bottom speakers.
Note that it is possible to use all 6 matrix mixes to setup a stereo 3-way crossover, as you can use the high and low band crossover filters simultaneously in the PEQ for feeding mids.
Hope this helps!
Dear Nick,
As we implemented the crossover feature in a firmware update, we had not included it in the X32 Engineer's Quick Start Guide which was finished before the firmware update. We plan to update the guide soon to account for new features, but for now here are the steps:
The crossover features are inside of the parametric EQ on the 6 matrix mixes. In order to utilize them you will need send your Main Mix to Matrix mixes and feed your speakers from there.
1. If you are running your tops in stereo, you will need to link pairs of matrix mixes together for them, using two for highs (matrix 1-2) and one for lows (matrix 3). For the rest of this example, we will assume a mono system running to matrix 1 (lows) and 2 (highs).
2. Select the Main LR Mix and use the Bus Send encoders in the channel strip to send it to matrix mixes 1 & 2
3. Select matrix 1 (located on layer 4 of the output faders) and press VIEW on the Parametric EQ section of the channel strip. Don't forget to turn the PEQ on.
4. Press the LAYER Down key until the mode controls becomes available on the rotary encoders beneath the screen (you will not find the crossover filters if you press the dedicated MODE button in the channel strip)
5. Rotate the 6th encoder (high band) and choose your crossover for the the high-cut filter. You will see options for Butterworth (BU), Bessel (BS), and Linkwitz Riley (LR). Now choose your frequency for this band (this can be done from the channel strip like usual).
6. Select matrix 2 and press VIEW on the Parametric EQ section of the channel strip. Don't forget to turn the PEQ on.
7. Rotate the 1st encoder (low band) and choose your crossover for the low-cut filter. Then choose the frequency, which you will likely want to be the same frequency you choose previously.
8. Go to the ROUTING menu and assign Matrix 1 and 2 to the desired analog / aux outputs to feed your Main Top / Bottom speakers.
Note that it is possible to use all 6 matrix mixes to setup a stereo 3-way crossover, as you can use the high and low band crossover filters simultaneously in the PEQ for feeding mids.
Hope this helps!
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Re: X32 Discussion
It is fairly easy. Let's say you have a subs+tops setup with mono sub plus tops then you need to use three matrices, link 1+2 and send MainLR to left and right, and use a single for the subs, sending both left and right from the MainLR to this matrix. Assign these three matrices to outputs. For the subs matrix, apply filter 6 at the crossover frequency, using LR24 (you can use Bessel or Butterworth if you want to, but let's stay off the finer details for now) The filter 6 filter will be a low pass. Also you will want to use filter one at a frequency around 35 Hz as a subsonic filter, use BW24 here (Butterworth). Use the rest of the filters for any eq that the subs or the room modes needs.
For the tops, you apply LR24 to filter 1 at the same x-over frequency (this will be high-pass), and use the rest of the filters according to a manufacturer specified setting for simple x-overs like dbx PA+.
You might want to use some dynamics, just start with some RMS limiting unless the amps are so big that peak limiting is in order to protect the speakers.
That's it, really. ..........except for all the finer points
It is fairly easy. Let's say you have a subs+tops setup with mono sub plus tops then you need to use three matrices, link 1+2 and send MainLR to left and right, and use a single for the subs, sending both left and right from the MainLR to this matrix. Assign these three matrices to outputs. For the subs matrix, apply filter 6 at the crossover frequency, using LR24 (you can use Bessel or Butterworth if you want to, but let's stay off the finer details for now) The filter 6 filter will be a low pass. Also you will want to use filter one at a frequency around 35 Hz as a subsonic filter, use BW24 here (Butterworth). Use the rest of the filters for any eq that the subs or the room modes needs.
For the tops, you apply LR24 to filter 1 at the same x-over frequency (this will be high-pass), and use the rest of the filters according to a manufacturer specified setting for simple x-overs like dbx PA+.
You might want to use some dynamics, just start with some RMS limiting unless the amps are so big that peak limiting is in order to protect the speakers.
That's it, really. ..........except for all the finer points
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Re: X32 Discussion
I updated my phone to the new android version.
And I got it working. Edit: Mixing station app, couldn't find the other one...
But I get errors on the desk:
OSC_ERROR message size must be multiple of four.
And another screen:
OSC ERROR: message size
OSC ERROR: unterminated address pattern must be multiple of four
Also it seems that the pan doesn't work in small steps but only from far left to far right.
I updated my phone to the new android version.
And I got it working. Edit: Mixing station app, couldn't find the other one...
But I get errors on the desk:
OSC_ERROR message size must be multiple of four.
And another screen:
OSC ERROR: message size
OSC ERROR: unterminated address pattern must be multiple of four
Also it seems that the pan doesn't work in small steps but only from far left to far right.
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Re: X32 Discussion
Nick - Behringer X32 - Use as a System Processor for Bi-Amped + Sub Setup - YouTube -Tim T
Nick - Behringer X32 - Use as a System Processor for Bi-Amped + Sub Setup - YouTube -Tim T
Re: Compact recording card
Dear Chris,
As we are transitioning to the new X-USB Card some of the early X32 COMPACT consoles and existing store stock X32 consoles, may have X-UF cards.
All new X32 consoles, (X32, X32 COMPACT, X32 PRODUCER, X32 RACK and X32 CORE), will be shipping with the new X-USB card.
As USB has gone to USB 2.0, USB actually works as well if not better in many situations. I have actually had better luck using PT 10 with USB 2.0 over Firewire 400.
I have no word on Thunderbolt, but we are working on Dante, MADI and ADAT cards for late 2013/ early 2014.
SoundCloud is a great solution for sharing mixes.
Hope this helps.
Dear Chris,
As we are transitioning to the new X-USB Card some of the early X32 COMPACT consoles and existing store stock X32 consoles, may have X-UF cards.
All new X32 consoles, (X32, X32 COMPACT, X32 PRODUCER, X32 RACK and X32 CORE), will be shipping with the new X-USB card.
As USB has gone to USB 2.0, USB actually works as well if not better in many situations. I have actually had better luck using PT 10 with USB 2.0 over Firewire 400.
I have no word on Thunderbolt, but we are working on Dante, MADI and ADAT cards for late 2013/ early 2014.
SoundCloud is a great solution for sharing mixes.
Hope this helps.
Windows 8 64 bit driver for X32 keeps getting bumped off
Its happened quite a few times in the last 10 days. I have to re-install the driver again and again.
Anyone else having this issue?
Its the usb version not the firewire one that disappears.
I'm using the latest usb driver from Behringer.
I had today installed a new usb driver for a non-audio device which does not use the same usb port as the X32.
Its happened quite a few times in the last 10 days. I have to re-install the driver again and again.
Anyone else having this issue?
Its the usb version not the firewire one that disappears.
I'm using the latest usb driver from Behringer.
I had today installed a new usb driver for a non-audio device which does not use the same usb port as the X32.
Losing XUF audio from laptop since latest firmware/driver upgrade.
Hey guys -- The other day when Behringer released X32 firmware 1.15, I upgraded my console, and also installed the latest USB/Windows drivers and XUF firmware (which were actually released earlier this year).
Since doing the upgrade, the playback from my laptop into the XUF card (via USB) keeps dying. Same laptop, same connection method I've used since I've had this board (a year?), and it's never done this.
I have channels 1-2 of the XUF card mapped into AUX1-2 (which is something new since v1.15 of the firmware; saw it on a recent Behringer X32 webcast).
There are no errors on the computer; the player actually continues playing, and if I remove the USB cable to the XUF card, the audio pops back to the internal speakers. Plug the USB back in, and audio picks up right where the player is at; and then plays for a few minutes before completely dying again.
Tonight during our 2 hours of rehearsing, it's done this probably a dozen times.
I don't reboot my laptop very often, but the other day when this was happening, I rebooted, but now tonight, it's back. Wondering if there have been any other reports of this kind of problems, or any thoughts re. troubleshooting.
-- Mitch
Hey guys -- The other day when Behringer released X32 firmware 1.15, I upgraded my console, and also installed the latest USB/Windows drivers and XUF firmware (which were actually released earlier this year).
Since doing the upgrade, the playback from my laptop into the XUF card (via USB) keeps dying. Same laptop, same connection method I've used since I've had this board (a year?), and it's never done this.
I have channels 1-2 of the XUF card mapped into AUX1-2 (which is something new since v1.15 of the firmware; saw it on a recent Behringer X32 webcast).
There are no errors on the computer; the player actually continues playing, and if I remove the USB cable to the XUF card, the audio pops back to the internal speakers. Plug the USB back in, and audio picks up right where the player is at; and then plays for a few minutes before completely dying again.
Tonight during our 2 hours of rehearsing, it's done this probably a dozen times.
I don't reboot my laptop very often, but the other day when this was happening, I rebooted, but now tonight, it's back. Wondering if there have been any other reports of this kind of problems, or any thoughts re. troubleshooting.
-- Mitch
Re: X32 Discussion
Great Work Andreas... may I suggest a master fader for the Aux Mix in your app (maybe across the very top of the screen)... and I second that motion about having the option to turn on/off channels, this way only the channels on my mix show in the apps' mixer... not all the faders if they're not being used... thanks !!! and again kudos for a great app...
Great Work Andreas... may I suggest a master fader for the Aux Mix in your app (maybe across the very top of the screen)... and I second that motion about having the option to turn on/off channels, this way only the channels on my mix show in the apps' mixer... not all the faders if they're not being used... thanks !!! and again kudos for a great app...
Re: Losing XUF audio from laptop since latest firmware/driver upgrade.
Did you update the card firmware?
Did you update the card firmware?
Re: X32 Discussion
Hi Antoon,
yes this is an error at the Mixing Station App
David ( The Coder) is this week at holliday and will try to fix it next week.
Until then u can try the MONITOR App from Andreas.
This app works fine. But it´s "only" for the Monitor mix.
If u have connentet don´t forget to press Sends Fader on your Desk to see the Fader sliding ;-)
Here are the two links.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.davidgiga1993.mixingstation&hl=de
From David ( Still in Alpha, some comunication Problems, maybe fix next week
)
And
XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32 from Andreas (XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32)
(Monitor App) (Working for most users ) For the newest Version look at his Webside.
Hi Antoon,
yes this is an error at the Mixing Station App
David ( The Coder) is this week at holliday and will try to fix it next week.
Until then u can try the MONITOR App from Andreas.
This app works fine. But it´s "only" for the Monitor mix.If u have connentet don´t forget to press Sends Fader on your Desk to see the Fader sliding ;-)
Here are the two links.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.davidgiga1993.mixingstation&hl=de
From David ( Still in Alpha, some comunication Problems, maybe fix next week
And
XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32 from Andreas (XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32)
(Monitor App) (Working for most users ) For the newest Version look at his Webside.
Re: X32 Discussion
Ok, so your wife would like to use my app exact the same way I do! What if I made a new "DCA" layer, completely independent from the desk. 8 Faders with user defined names and controlling user defined (sends-on-) faders. This faders wouldn't show any meter-value, though.
I think it can be more useful to her than me!!!8)~~
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I think is one of the best quality-price in commerce!!:twisted:
One suggest, if it's possible hide the channels unused on the mixer it would be more comfortable to use on stage~:-o~
And thaks again
Ok, so your wife would like to use my app exact the same way I do! What if I made a new "DCA" layer, completely independent from the desk. 8 Faders with user defined names and controlling user defined (sends-on-) faders. This faders wouldn't show any meter-value, though.
Re: X32 Discussion
I have it working, took some time to find out how I could get the apk file installed on the phone.
Checked it also with the x32, and yes the faders are moving.
I only can't find where to choose the mixbus...
Until then u can try the MONITOR App from Andreas.
XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32 from Andreas (XMonitor - Android-App for Behringer X32)
(Monitor App) (Working for most users ) For the newest Version look at his Webside.
I have it working, took some time to find out how I could get the apk file installed on the phone.
Checked it also with the x32, and yes the faders are moving.
I only can't find where to choose the mixbus...
Re: X32 Discussion
Hit menu-button if your device has one, or tap the menu-soft-button on the right end of the title-bar. Goto Settings and change the bus to your needs!
Hit menu-button if your device has one, or tap the menu-soft-button on the right end of the title-bar. Goto Settings and change the bus to your needs!
Re: X32 Discussion
As some users reported there seems to be a problem with Android 4.0.4.
I already got a virtual device with Android 4.0.4 up and running, and am
able to reproduce the behavior.
I’ll post a new version if I survive fixing the problem!
Greetings Andy
As some users reported there seems to be a problem with Android 4.0.4.
I already got a virtual device with Android 4.0.4 up and running, and am
able to reproduce the behavior.
I’ll post a new version if I survive fixing the problem!
Greetings Andy
Re: X32 - in ear stereo monitoring
I am very excited to hear there will be a MADI card.
I would ideally like to see both coax and optical I/O, with dual redundant outputs. That would mean a coax input and an optical input, two optical outs and two coax outs. Do you think this is asking too much?
Could you also allow for the 56 or 64 channel standards and allow 'merging' of a MADI stream, so the 32 I/O of the X32 could form the upper or lower half of the 64 channels and pass through the other half?
I am very excited to hear there will be a MADI card.
I would ideally like to see both coax and optical I/O, with dual redundant outputs. That would mean a coax input and an optical input, two optical outs and two coax outs. Do you think this is asking too much?
Could you also allow for the 56 or 64 channel standards and allow 'merging' of a MADI stream, so the 32 I/O of the X32 could form the upper or lower half of the 64 channels and pass through the other half?
I am still in search of the "advertised" 100 preset library for channel strip,
100 presets for FX and 100 presets for routing for X32.
The YouTube video uploaded April 4th 2013 says so (Getting To Know The X32: Preset Library - YouTube) as well as the text underneath the video.
>>There are 100 presets available for the channel strip, effects section, and routing.<<
Is there somewhere a file where they can be downloaded?
100 presets for FX and 100 presets for routing for X32.
The YouTube video uploaded April 4th 2013 says so (Getting To Know The X32: Preset Library - YouTube) as well as the text underneath the video.
>>There are 100 presets available for the channel strip, effects section, and routing.<<
Is there somewhere a file where they can be downloaded?