X32 Discussion

Re: X32 - in ear stereo monitoring

Dieter Edinger said:
Hi Nick,

Thanks for your reply, but I'm not talking about bus sends, where I fully understand the sends on fader logic,
but I am not sure what to do with this option when a mixbus is configured as a subgroup.

Think about following example:
- Mixbus1 & Mixbus 2 are configured as a stereo subgroup
- Channel 1 is assigned to this subgroup
- When I look at the sends page of channel one, there are no faders for sending a Signal to Mixbus 1 and Mixbus 2 but when I select Mixbus 1 and hit the "Sends on Fader" button, I can adjust a level sent to this bus,
but which Level should that be? In my opinion it can not be an send independent from the channel fader, it must be the fader Level or the option "Send on Fader" must not exist here.

Sorry if my English is not the best, as I'm no native Speaker.
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Hi.
Although you can use the faders while you are in the "send on faders" mode the fader do not adjust any level at that moment. You can move the fader because they exist. In this mode you can use the mute buttons to assign a particular channel to the subgroup.

Hth
 
Re: X32 - in ear stereo monitoring

Klaus Mock said:
Hi.
Although you can use the faders while you are in the "send on faders" mode the fader do not adjust any level at that moment. You can move the fader because they exist. In this mode you can use the mute buttons to assign a particular channel to the subgroup.

Hth
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Thanks for your explanation, Klaus!
I just wondered because those virtual send levels were also recallable.
Do you know if this can only be done in the X32 Edit on the PC, or if it is also doable on the physical console?
 
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Re: FX rack first 4 effects routing Question

Per Søvik said:
When they are set to insert, they are available to be used as inserts on channels instead of their usual sidechain send-return operation
Yes and no, you can select them as source in the Home-config tab, but it won't be instead of the fx return. You can just disengage the routing from the fx return to main (main tab) if you want to run it exclusively through the aux.
You might not want to use the aux though, because the aux only has eq. Use channels for the full processing, just mute the send to the effect you are tapping so you don't accidentally create a loop.
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- what is the difference in the Channel strip EQ between Veq and Peq?[/QUOTE]

The shape for one, the Veq is wider at the same Q setting. Can't remember if there are any phase-differences between the two.[/QUOTE]

My engineering speculation is that the board is processing bound at 32 channels. There are some hints to this in that some of the more powerful efx are only available on FX slots 1 and 2 ;) We may see more of this kind of non-symmetric processing in the future with V2 as Behringer engineering works to squeeze out more functionality from the old girl ;)

Keep in mind that as an engineer, you would have to account for the worst case condition where all 40 inputs are being used with every channel processor in use and all the buses are being used with all their channel processing being utilized along with the worst case computational FX combination being run all at the same time while having the max number of connected external devices controlling the mixer and all 32 in and 32 out recording interface running at the same time while someone pushed and pulled knobs and sliders at the same time. Now doesn't that sound like quite a bit of processing going on?

Personally Joe (and Behringer), I would institute a weight factor for each DSP algorithm on each processor and allow more and more processing to be engaged until the MIPS limit was reached. A simple UI could let the user see how much of their available processing power they had used. This approach would allow you to have some fairly serious processing added as long as you aren't doing the worst case in everything at the same time.

I think you have crammed in quite a bit already.

Maybe your engineers could consider this approach for V3 firmware ...... you know ..... with all their spare time ;)
 
Re: ROuting Aux inputs to Cubase - AAAAHHH!

Thanks John
and Donald!

That makes sense!
Pauly

John DiNicola said:
Dear Pauly,
As Don states, the TB stands for Talkback. Specifically, the 7th channel would be the internal talkback mic and the 8th channel would be the external talkback mic.



Dear Emke,
You can use the bus send encoders to do this when you have two buses linked together for a stereo bus. In this scenario, the odd numbered encoder controls level while the even numbered encoder controls panning. For example, if sending to a stereo bus using buses 1 & 2, the first encoder is volume and the second is pan.
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Re: FX rack first 4 effects routing Question

Mick Berg said:
I hope this applies to the PRODUCER as well!

Mick Berg.
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For the producer this would be actually not so useful. Without the channel scribbles, you could only see on the screen which channel is what. For the bigger models however I'm very surprised that this option isn't there. In my experience on Venue and Midas pro boards it is one of the great advantages of digital. Banking is just no fun :-). I'm thinking of getting a Compact for a church where I mix, but missing dca channel spill would be a big minus.
 
Re: X32 Discussion

I am thinking of getting a x32 compact. Are there any 'preferred' Behringer suppliers in my region (Helsinki, Finland)? I would love to be able to test one out for a weekend. As for service, is this always done with the local supplier or am I always better off contacting a MG care center (UK?)?

Also, I read about Behringer coming with its own cases and cat cables. When will those be available? Also, how will the price and quality compare to Thomann cases?
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Just wanted to say thanks to the Behringer guys for including crossover filters in the X32. You guys saved my ass and the gig tonight when I had catastrophic crossover failure.
 
Re: Connecting to the x32 remotely.

Has anyone had any success connecting to their board remotely? I have Airport Express for Ipad but not connected to internet. cat5 portal feet away. Help, I'm out of town and cant figure out over the phone what one of my church trainees has done. Thanks!
 
Re: Connecting to the x32 remotely.

Pete Stitz said:
Has anyone had any success connecting to their board remotely? I have Airport Express for Ipad but not connected to internet. cat5 portal feet away. Help, I'm out of town and cant figure out over the phone what one of my church trainees has done. Thanks!
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Pete, I have done it but the method I used takes a little time to set up.
In my venue I have a desktop computer strictly for device control that is always running when the system is up.
In addition to the various control programs it also runs a program called Teamviewer.

TeamViewer - Free Remote Control, Remote Access & Online Meetings

Running the same program on my laptop I have successfully controlled my X32 from home, and from another state over the internet.
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Ben Gingerich said:
Is there a way to set the DCA mutes to mute the channels assigned to the DCA so that it kills the stage monitors
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If you ask what I think you are asking, then the answer is "No", muting the DCA will only mute at the point where the DCA is applied, and a prefader send that is unaffected by the DCA will also be unaffected by the DCA mute. The only way would be to assign the mute groups to the same channels as the DCAs, and use the corresponding mute groups.
 
Re: FX rack first 4 effects routing Question

Peter Smit said:
For the producer this would be actually not so useful. Without the channel scribbles, you could only see on the screen which channel is what. For the bigger models however I'm very surprised that this option isn't there. In my experience on Venue and Midas pro boards it is one of the great advantages of digital. Banking is just no fun :-). I'm thinking of getting a Compact for a church where I mix, but missing dca channel spill would be a big minus.
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I agree that without the scribble strips it would be awkward. But in my particular application, a permanent install with all channels and outputs permanently assigned, board tape would suffice. I want to keep the ouptut levels hidden from the less-than-professional maintenance guys!


Mick Berg.
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Per Søvik said:
If you ask what I think you are asking, then the answer is "No", muting the DCA will only mute at the point where the DCA is applied, and a prefader send that is unaffected by the DCA will also be unaffected by the DCA mute. The only way would be to assign the mute groups to the same channels as the DCAs, and use the corresponding mute groups.
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Well, if the dca doesn't move you can include the subgroup(s) in the dca. This will mute at monitor point.

Or you can assign one or more dca's dedicated for monitors and control their subgropus with levels and mutes.

A mutegroup can be used for this duty as well like assigning mute group #6 to kill-all-monitors (or at least for those bass/guitars that gets unplugged every now and then:evil:).
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Robert Lofgren said:
Well, if the dca doesn't move you can include the subgroup(s) in the dca. This will mute at monitor point.
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Hi Robert, Hmmmm. Are you sure about that? I would think muting a subgroup is only muting its post-fader source from a channel, leaving it's pre-fade send open. Let me know if I'am mistaken!

edit: Maybe you meant "Mixbus" and not "Subgroup"?
 
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