X32 Discussion

re: X32 Discussion

karim noujaim said:
Now the question is: Can I send back the end result to my DAW? In my logic I should be able to but I can't seem to be able to. If possible how would you do it? I would be satisfied if I can send a stereo track back to the DAW and even better if I could send each individual track alone. Especially that I love some of the FXs available on the X32 better than my plugins which I paid a fortune to get them.
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Couldn't you just record to the USB stick (a stereo mix of what you are processing from the playback)
Or take it out to a cdR via AES, or maybe to another mixed down platform... another PC / some sort of minidisc or etc...

I'm sure there is an "in the box" way, that someone else will have come up with who is more familiar with the X32.
 
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Gerhard Asveld said:
Hi all, i'm new to this forum, but i already started reading this thread from the beginning because i ordered an X32 last year february. I got mine on august the 22. And so far i'm really impressed with the sound quality. And it so easy to understand and work with (even i was only used to work with analogue desks for many years). So it was worth the waiting. Right now i have one question so far in all the pictures i see that in the tft screens it says UXF with a green light in mine i see only UF with a green light is this normal or is something wrong? As far i can see the UXF card works fine but i'm learning in on using a DAW. Maybe someone has an answer?

Thx in advance.

Gerhard
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Hi Gerhard,

I just heard back from our development team in regards to your question:

XUF is the proper name of the eXpansion cardUsb Firewire, but in the display card section we skip the X, in order to keep enough room for the suffix – considering future cards with longer suffixes. So the small area in the status line only shows "C: UF" currently.

Hope it helps.

Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
 
re: X32 Discussion

Shane Presley said:
Couldn't you just record to the USB stick (a stereo mix of what you are processing from the playback)
Or take it out to a cdR via AES, or maybe to another mixed down platform... another PC / some sort of minidisc or etc...

I'm sure there is an "in the box" way, that someone else will have come up with who is more familiar with the X32.
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Totally doable, but has its drawbacks especially if you're not done with your treatment yet and need to sync back with the rest of your audio! :)

example,

Had a piano that didn't sound wide enough for my taste, loved what the stereo enhancer did to it, thought it would be nice to process it through the X32 and take it back to my DAW on a new track.

Instead recorded that to another device and wasted a couple of minutes trying to fit it back where it should be
 
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Hi Joe,

Thx for the swift answer and the pm.
You people from Behringer provide great support.
And it helps a lot.
Even more fun to work with the X32

Thanks again and have a great day.

Gerhard Asveld


Joe Sanborn said:
Hi Gerhard,

I just heard back from our development team in regards to your question:

XUF is the proper name of the eXpansion cardUsb Firewire, but in the display card section we skip the X, in order to keep enough room for the suffix – considering future cards with longer suffixes. So the small area in the status line only shows "C: UF" currently.

Hope it helps.

Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
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Kevin Maxwell said:
I am getting a bit frustrated and maybe it is because I am not a writer. I know what I am trying to say, it just seem like people are having a hard time understanding how I am saying it.

I have been trying to write about this short and to the point but I don’t seem to be getting my point across. So here goes the long version.

The standard way that I want a digital console to work with scenes is when I hit the go button it recalls the next scene. I don’t want to hit another button or turn a knob and then hit go. The X32 can be set to act that way in Setup/global/General preferences – “Scene Go next’. That is good.

But the way that it is doing that is to have the next scene pre-cued and if you try to over write the scene that is active on the surface you wind-up saving over the next scene instead. This is bad from my point of view. Why would you want to make changes to the scene you are in but save it to the next scene?

After my show is initially written it is not the final version it is very preliminary and many changes will have to be made as we run the few rehearsals I get to do with sound. It is very fast paced. I only get to stop the rehearsal if there is a very bad problem, like one of the principal characters mics has died for some reason. So I am constantly updating the scene I am in at what ever time that may be. I am even still making changes during the shows.


On most consoles I have worked with there is usually -

A scene store button on the surface and the ability to make one of the user defined buttons act as a store button.

There is also the ability to make a button act as the GO button.

And another button to act as the BACK button.

Go meaning when the go button is pushed the next scene in the list is recalled. When the back button is pushed it recalls the previous scene in the list.

I like to use 2 buttons with the one being lower (closer to the wrist rest) and the other button being above it. So with the X32 if they let that functionality be enabled on the assignable buttons I would put the GO button as button number 12 and the BACK button would be button number 8. And I would make 7 my store scene button. I also want a “set selected channel to NOMINAL” button.

This (store button) is a major need for me and at the moment there is no way to save a scene except from the scene view.

For consoles that have GPI capability I have made a GO/BACK box that I plug into the ports and can put the box where I want it.

So my fingers are dancing between those buttons regularly. The store button usually requires one press to call up the store screen and another press to save/store the changes. I am usually just double tapping the store button to update the scene I am in after I have made whatever changes I have needed to make to that scene.

Basing this only on the Xcontrol off line PC software once you recall scene 1 it recalls scene 1 and then if you look you will see that the next scene is gray, that is the scene it will recall when you hit go. If you flag a scene to be skipped you will see as you go down the list of scenes recalling them with the go button only; the gray bar jumps past the skip scene. So if you have scenes 5 and 6 flagged to be skipped when you go thru and recall scene 4 the gray bar jumps to scene 7.

If you turn off the go next in Setup/global/General preferences – “Scene Go next”. You have to select a scene and then press go to recall a scene. The only reason I can see someone wanting to do this is if you basically wanted to disable the go button. And some people might want to do that. I like to see functionality added to digital mixer so different people can do things the way they want to do them. So I am not saying to take that functionality away unless it is a bug.

When I used an iLive T112 a while ago you needed to hit the forward button and then the go button. It was very annoying because you could loose your place easily. I think they changed that in the firmware after I used one a couple of times.

There is also a strange behavior if you recall scene 1 and then click on scene 1 and then hit go you will see that go does nothing. Actually it works that way for any scene if you loose the gray bar it will not move with the go button.

I think the X32 looks like it is a great console but I don’t know if they ever intended it to work how I think it should for theater. I am asking a lot for a board in this price range and all anyone has to say is it can’t do it and we never planned on it doing all of that and then we are done here.

BTW look at the saved information for a show with an ascii editor and there are some interesting thing in there. If you know how to read that kind of stuff.
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So...I just went through trying to replicate exactly what you were talking about and I am pretty sure that I understand it now. And so instead of writing out a super long reply on how to overcome the saving scene problem, I just recorded a video and uploaded it on youtube.

Behringer X32 - Saving scenes - YouTube

The solution is more of a workaround than a solution, but it is definitely a ton easier to save changes on the console than it is to save changes on the offline editor.

Hope this answers your original question.
 
re: X32 Discussion

Joe Sanborn said:
Hi Rob,

Our Product Specialists have had great results on the PC platform with Reaper.
If you go that route, we can help you out if needed.

Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
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Thanks Joe, for the reply. It would be great if you could have your Product Specialists start a series of 'how to' videos on youtube for various X32 functions like (in my case) how to hook up and operate recording software using laptops with the X32. Other videos could be on topics that come up here on the forum frequently where there seems to be confusion. The few videos that you have out there already are outstanding (like how to hook up and use X Control with a wireless router and laptop) and it would be great to have many more to view on the other functions.

Thanks again.

Rob
 
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Mike Pyle said:
Joe,

In your opinion, is the packaging for the X32 adequate to protect to console for normal package shipping? (UPS, Fedex Ground, etc)

Thanks,
Mike Pyle
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I'm not Joe, but I thought it was pretty well packed - double boxed, with a pretty big gap around the mixer itself thanks to the foam inserts. Shouldn't be a problem under normal circumstances.
 
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Rob Dellwood said:
Thanks Joe, for the reply. It would be great if you could have your Product Specialists start a series of 'how to' videos on youtube for various X32 functions like (in my case) how to hook up and operate recording software using laptops with the X32. Other videos could be on topics that come up here on the forum frequently where there seems to be confusion. The few videos that you have out there already are outstanding (like how to hook up and use X Control with a wireless router and laptop) and it would be great to have many more to view on the other functions.

Thanks again.

Rob
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In the interim, there are lots of end user X32 how to videos on youtube that cover pretty much everything.
 
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Mike Pyle said:
Joe,

In your opinion, is the packaging for the X32 adequate to protect to console for normal package shipping? (UPS, Fedex Ground, etc)

Thanks,
Mike Pyle
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Hi Mike,

Sure the double box should be adequate for shipping.
If you are moving it around for gigs I highly recommend a roadcase.

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
 
re: X32 Discussion

Rob Dellwood said:
Thanks Joe, for the reply. It would be great if you could have your Product Specialists start a series of 'how to' videos on youtube for various X32 functions like (in my case) how to hook up and operate recording software using laptops with the X32. Other videos could be on topics that come up here on the forum frequently where there seems to be confusion. The few videos that you have out there already are outstanding (like how to hook up and use X Control with a wireless router and laptop) and it would be great to have many more to view on the other functions.

Thanks again.

Rob
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Hi Rob,

We are in the process of putting a whole series of videos together.
I will try to include the topics you mentioned.

Thanks!


Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER
 
XUF I/O Routing - A question?

All sorts of routing to the XUF card can selected in banks of 8. However today I wanted to record the first 16 channels of the desk AND a couple of the Aux-in channels. No problem I thought, I'll just select Aux 1-8 to assign to channels 17-25 of the CARD routing. Guess what, the Aux 1-8 do not appear in the list of sources you can select from. Surely you could just add these to the selectable list in the CARD out routing?

I had to waste a busmix feeding the Aux in to it then assigning the busmix to a physical analogue out then selecting that bank of analogue outs to the card.....
Could the Aux 1-8 be added to the list of sources for CARD out please.

Having said all of the above, am I missing something... is there an easier/proper way to do this and I've just missed?

regards

Mike
 
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Sorry if this is obvious but I am still learning this. When selecting the scene view button I am trying to understand how to set it up so that scene changes the mix but not the system configuration.

If routing i/o is highlighted orange for example, does that mean it will or will not make changes to the I/O when a new scene is loaded?

Thanks,
Jared
 
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Audio Noise generated by knob Adjustments

I was just setting up a side chain fx today using VRM effect. I fed this from a channel that happend to have a CD player feeding it. It was fed to main LR, nothing special. As I adjusted the knob for 'size' in the effect just below the LCD, the audio nosie generated by turning the knob was very obvious. All sorts of hissing and crackling. It was quite repeatable. Is this normal?
 
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Jared Koopman said:
Sorry if this is obvious but I am still learning this. When selecting the scene view button I am trying to understand how to set it up so that scene changes the mix but not the system configuration.

If routing i/o is highlighted orange for example, does that mean it will or will not make changes to the I/O when a new scene is loaded?

Thanks,
Jared
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If it is highlighted, it is SAFE and will not be changed
 
Re: XUF I/O Routing - A question?

Mike Gibson said:
All sorts of routing to the XUF card can selected in banks of 8. However today I wanted to record the first 16 channels of the desk AND a couple of the Aux-in channels. No problem I thought, I'll just select Aux 1-8 to assign to channels 17-25 of the CARD routing. Guess what, the Aux 1-8 do not appear in the list of sources you can select from. Surely you could just add these to the selectable list in the CARD out routing?

I had to waste a busmix feeding the Aux in to it then assigning the busmix to a physical analogue out then selecting that bank of analogue outs to the card.....
Could the Aux 1-8 be added to the list of sources for CARD out please.

Having said all of the above, am I missing something... is there an easier/proper way to do this and I've just missed?

regards

Mike
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(Ax1-6/Mon is the very last option in the list on the new Xcontrol, I haven't checked the console.)
Edit: Wrong and misleading answer, please ignore.
 
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re: X32 Discussion

karim noujaim said:
Totally doable, but has its drawbacks especially if you're not done with your treatment yet and need to sync back with the rest of your audio! :)

example,

Had a piano that didn't sound wide enough for my taste, loved what the stereo enhancer did to it, thought it would be nice to process it through the X32 and take it back to my DAW on a new track.

Instead recorded that to another device and wasted a couple of minutes trying to fit it back where it should be
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Since you don't need to process all your tracks at once, you can route 8 or 16 tracks from DAW, then assign each of them to a mixbus, and route the mixbusses back to DAW, recording the processed versions of the tracks. Just remember to time-align the rerecorded tracks (I start tracks with a short click to have an easy time reference) with the originals so it doesn't get messy.
 
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Othmane Alaoui said:
Merci Christian,

I naturally would like to use all of the mixbuses post fader for the ease of the operation, all of your imputs becomes triggers for each of the mixbuses, I am still confused but will get it !! My question now is : can I modify the mixbuses from Pré to Post for all of them or I can only use the preconfig in setup menu ?
Also, is there any PAD or -10 or -20 Db on the console for the inputs, I do not find any ,,,

Thank you again,

OThmane
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You can specify each send individually for each track
 
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