Silas Pradetto
Graduate Student
re: X32 Discussion
Here's the reasoning behind the limitation:
Here's the reasoning behind the limitation:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WAV said:
X32 Discussion
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re: X32 Discussion
Hmm - the X32 may be able to do it, but since you have the device already - you can change the password and get control of the box back: Push recall+mute1+mute2 at the same time.
Hmm - the X32 may be able to do it, but since you have the device already - you can change the password and get control of the box back: Push recall+mute1+mute2 at the same time.
re: X32 Discussion
I really wish there was away to record all 32 tracks (48k 24bit wav format) onto the usb stick or to a small external hard drive (we have already been using a small external hard drive and it has been working great with the standard 2 track recording) While I was on the phone with the tech dept yesterday I thought I would mention this must wanted feature and he said he would pass it along ( I sure hope)
We have been using the MyMix monitoring system for awhile that lets you record all individual 16 tracks 48k 24 bit wav on to a sd card in the side of each unit along with a 2 track mix also, so I know this is being done to some extent on at least one new product so far.(myMix - Personal Mixing & Multi-track Recording)
This would be absolutly incredible if this were possible. (in my opinion) Please oh Please with sugar on top
Chip
I really wish there was away to record all 32 tracks (48k 24bit wav format) onto the usb stick or to a small external hard drive (we have already been using a small external hard drive and it has been working great with the standard 2 track recording) While I was on the phone with the tech dept yesterday I thought I would mention this must wanted feature and he said he would pass it along ( I sure hope)
We have been using the MyMix monitoring system for awhile that lets you record all individual 16 tracks 48k 24 bit wav on to a sd card in the side of each unit along with a 2 track mix also, so I know this is being done to some extent on at least one new product so far.(myMix - Personal Mixing & Multi-track Recording)
This would be absolutly incredible if this were possible. (in my opinion) Please oh Please with sugar on top
Chip
re: X32 Discussion
@Joe Sanborn , thanks for your comments regarding the USB issues. In my circumstance it was 100% user issue having not read that section of the manual and the show I was recording was 3hour + starting recording early !
However , I do think that some improvements in the firmware should be considered. When the file being written reaches the 2Gb limit is should either stop recording (and not just abandon the recording like my one did) and indicate this to the user thru the GUI or close the recording file at 2Gb and start a new one automatically.
I have recorded at least 30 test sessions on the stick I used on the night and they all worked flawlessly, so there is no issue with the model of USB stick however I didnt try a three hour long test.
Thanks
Kev
@Joe Sanborn , thanks for your comments regarding the USB issues. In my circumstance it was 100% user issue having not read that section of the manual and the show I was recording was 3hour + starting recording early !
However , I do think that some improvements in the firmware should be considered. When the file being written reaches the 2Gb limit is should either stop recording (and not just abandon the recording like my one did) and indicate this to the user thru the GUI or close the recording file at 2Gb and start a new one automatically.
I have recorded at least 30 test sessions on the stick I used on the night and they all worked flawlessly, so there is no issue with the model of USB stick however I didnt try a three hour long test.
Thanks
Kev
re: X32 Discussion
Did also think about doing this and have similar replacement faders available- but though the standard faders are a bit "plasticy" - they are in fact quite easy to see in dimmed light - whereas the others less so - though a goose lamp would solve this!
Did also think about doing this and have similar replacement faders available- but though the standard faders are a bit "plasticy" - they are in fact quite easy to see in dimmed light - whereas the others less so - though a goose lamp would solve this!
re: X32 Discussion
Hi guys,
just one X32 gig for me last week. Just the opposite to my last one. Last time I had professional and loud pa rig, but very strict SPL limits. This time, the promoter wanted a loud R'n'R show but provided a mediocore PA system. :roll:
I got in touch before the gig with the guy, who provided the system and we agreed on six Meyersound PSW-4 subs and four Meyersound UPAs for a small crowd waiting for us at a brithday party. Our host is a professional lumber jack and as a real outsdoors man, he set up his event also outdoors. Boy, it is getting really cold here at nights. The difference in temperature was insane, almost 15 degrees (from 19 at noon to 4°C at midnight!). Quite similar to my thrill of anticipation concerning the PA rig.
When we arrived, there were just four Meyersound PSW-4 and two Peavey Hi Sys 15/1" Tops. Welcome to the real world of the small town entertainment8)~
~
Well, it is what it is and we set up the backline. The funny thing is, that the host himself build quite a nice stage into his warehouse...but the PA rig?
Before even listen to it, I organised two Coke crates, to get the Peaveys to a higher ground.
Of course, the guy who provided the system wasn't around, just two XLR line with (L/R) taped to it. Well, I was prepared for a medicore sound, but when I raised the Kick drum fader during soundcheck it got the giggles.
This was the worst PA system I ever heard and I heared a few the last 20 years! The fun part was, that the Peavey acutally was the best part of it I couldn't help it, I instantly had to laugh.
The facial expression of the bystanders showed me, that they were thinking "WTF!?...what's up with the soundguy?"
I grabbed the open wireless mic and went to the amprack. The Subs are active and the Peaveys were driven with an acienct electro voice amp. Ok, there was my problem...the complete system ran without any crossover! No lowcut for the peaveys, no high cut for the Meyer subs! I belief, the Meyer sub have a build in crossover between the 18" and 15" speaker and likely a high cut somewhere around 160-200Hz, but speaking through the mic, you could clearly hear the lows of voice comming through the 15" speakers of the subs. With each bass drum the Lo-Limiter of the subs waved the white flag. The only "quick fix" was to to create a deep cut with the the build in parametric EQ in the X32 mastersection (between 80Hz and 160Hz). So no fat snare, no thick guitars this night - quite annying for a band the plays from fxxcking German Schlager music to songs from VolBeat or Metallica. In addition I compressed the hell out of everything and I replaced the 31GEQ in the mains with the precision limiter from the effects section. Now I got at least levels around 95 dBa for the 200 party people and my X32 was just about eight meters away from the PA system...
Now to the good things. I'm with this band for almost 20 years now, since I use the X32, the guitar player uses the P-16M monitorsystem. At this gig, the drummer used a P-16M for the first time. Without further instructions he was able to set up a nice sound for himself. After the gig he said, that he now want's to use the P-16M on a regular basis. 8)~~
Beside freezing my tail off, I went twice to the party-catering. Our host set up a food truck, serving solely brat&curry-wurst (sausages) with french fries.
Of couse the was an oversized beer stall too, but I rather prefered a Glühwein (hot wine punch).
Anyway...due to the difference in temperature the X32 collected more and more condensed water.
It was so extreme, that it looked if some had spilled over a beer over the desk! But it worked perfect like always.
No glitches due to the extrem air moisture.
Have a great week!
Christian
Hi guys,
just one X32 gig for me last week. Just the opposite to my last one. Last time I had professional and loud pa rig, but very strict SPL limits. This time, the promoter wanted a loud R'n'R show but provided a mediocore PA system. :roll:
I got in touch before the gig with the guy, who provided the system and we agreed on six Meyersound PSW-4 subs and four Meyersound UPAs for a small crowd waiting for us at a brithday party. Our host is a professional lumber jack and as a real outsdoors man, he set up his event also outdoors. Boy, it is getting really cold here at nights. The difference in temperature was insane, almost 15 degrees (from 19 at noon to 4°C at midnight!). Quite similar to my thrill of anticipation concerning the PA rig.
When we arrived, there were just four Meyersound PSW-4 and two Peavey Hi Sys 15/1" Tops. Welcome to the real world of the small town entertainment8)~
~Well, it is what it is and we set up the backline. The funny thing is, that the host himself build quite a nice stage into his warehouse...but the PA rig?
Before even listen to it, I organised two Coke crates, to get the Peaveys to a higher ground.
Of course, the guy who provided the system wasn't around, just two XLR line with (L/R) taped to it. Well, I was prepared for a medicore sound, but when I raised the Kick drum fader during soundcheck it got the giggles.
This was the worst PA system I ever heard and I heared a few the last 20 years! The fun part was, that the Peavey acutally was the best part of it
I couldn't help it, I instantly had to laugh. The facial expression of the bystanders showed me, that they were thinking "WTF!?...what's up with the soundguy?"
I grabbed the open wireless mic and went to the amprack. The Subs are active and the Peaveys were driven with an acienct electro voice amp. Ok, there was my problem...the complete system ran without any crossover! No lowcut for the peaveys, no high cut for the Meyer subs! I belief, the Meyer sub have a build in crossover between the 18" and 15" speaker and likely a high cut somewhere around 160-200Hz, but speaking through the mic, you could clearly hear the lows of voice comming through the 15" speakers of the subs. With each bass drum the Lo-Limiter of the subs waved the white flag. The only "quick fix" was to to create a deep cut with the the build in parametric EQ in the X32 mastersection (between 80Hz and 160Hz). So no fat snare, no thick guitars this night - quite annying for a band the plays from fxxcking German Schlager music to songs from VolBeat or Metallica. In addition I compressed the hell out of everything and I replaced the 31GEQ in the mains with the precision limiter from the effects section. Now I got at least levels around 95 dBa for the 200 party people and my X32 was just about eight meters away from the PA system...
Now to the good things. I'm with this band for almost 20 years now, since I use the X32, the guitar player uses the P-16M monitorsystem. At this gig, the drummer used a P-16M for the first time. Without further instructions he was able to set up a nice sound for himself. After the gig he said, that he now want's to use the P-16M on a regular basis. 8)~
~Beside freezing my tail off, I went twice to the party-catering. Our host set up a food truck, serving solely brat&curry-wurst (sausages) with french fries.
Of couse the was an oversized beer stall too, but I rather prefered a Glühwein (hot wine punch).
Anyway...due to the difference in temperature the X32 collected more and more condensed water.
It was so extreme, that it looked if some had spilled over a beer over the desk! But it worked perfect like always.
No glitches due to the extrem air moisture.
Have a great week!
Christian
re: X32 Discussion
Just to update you guys, I've been speaking with Behringer Support and they've solved my problem - impressed with their responses so far, turns out the belt for this fader had slipped of the motor during shipping.
Just to update you guys, I've been speaking with Behringer Support and they've solved my problem - impressed with their responses so far, turns out the belt for this fader had slipped of the motor during shipping.
re: X32 Discussion
In the Sends set ups, it seem that I can only choose their Pre/Post fader in pairs 1&2 3&4 etc. How do I choose them in single mode ???
In the Sends set ups, it seem that I can only choose their Pre/Post fader in pairs 1&2 3&4 etc. How do I choose them in single mode ???
re: X32 Discussion
We are hoping to get an X32 for our church soon and to use an iPad for iem monitor mixing. The guy operating the iPad will need to hear what he is mixing – preferably on wireless headphones. Ideally when he selects a mix bus he would hear it in the head-phones. Does anyone have ideas on how we could best do this?
We are hoping to get an X32 for our church soon and to use an iPad for iem monitor mixing. The guy operating the iPad will need to hear what he is mixing – preferably on wireless headphones. Ideally when he selects a mix bus he would hear it in the head-phones. Does anyone have ideas on how we could best do this?
re: X32 Discussion
Our church had our first service with the X32 and P16m's yesterday and it went very well. We really love this system and the ability to do virtual sound check is amazing. I am able to train new sound engineers and check the mixes from each service. By the way, the P16m's are awesome. We have been long time aviom users, but this is really a step up.
One thing that leaves me scratching my head about is the Buses. We are currently running in the 4+8+4 config. using 4 channels for sub-mixes on the P16m (Drums and Keys), 8 channels for sub groups, and 4 channels for FX. Because we run remote location tv's, we use the matrix so we have to use Sub groups. I would love to be able to run a few IEM mixes using the iPads as well, but all of my internal buses are used (Not my analogue outputs). It seems like the console would really benefit from having 32 buses that you could use however (Internal routing and analogue routing). I know it's way to late for them to change that now, But I have 13 outputs on the back of the board that I will never use because of the limitations in the Buses.
Another option would be to allow the DCA's to send to the matrix.
Just a thought.
Our church had our first service with the X32 and P16m's yesterday and it went very well. We really love this system and the ability to do virtual sound check is amazing. I am able to train new sound engineers and check the mixes from each service. By the way, the P16m's are awesome. We have been long time aviom users, but this is really a step up.
One thing that leaves me scratching my head about is the Buses. We are currently running in the 4+8+4 config. using 4 channels for sub-mixes on the P16m (Drums and Keys), 8 channels for sub groups, and 4 channels for FX. Because we run remote location tv's, we use the matrix so we have to use Sub groups. I would love to be able to run a few IEM mixes using the iPads as well, but all of my internal buses are used (Not my analogue outputs). It seems like the console would really benefit from having 32 buses that you could use however (Internal routing and analogue routing). I know it's way to late for them to change that now, But I have 13 outputs on the back of the board that I will never use because of the limitations in the Buses.
Another option would be to allow the DCA's to send to the matrix.
Just a thought.
re: X32 Discussion
DCAs are NOT audio groups, they only *control* signals, they do not combine them.
DCAs are NOT audio groups, they only *control* signals, they do not combine them.
re: X32 Discussion
Hi Guys,
I was very busy last week, so now some news from me.
I visited the Behringer team in Willich. Their engineer Axel opened my X32 and repaired my noisy channel 16. No big deal, only a cable which was misplaced. This was done in about 30 minutes. So thanks again for your help!
Then I had the first live gig with my band and the X32 at our local "Stadtfest" (it's called city festival I think!?) on Sunday last week. Normally we're used to do much smaller gigs, so this was a big PA and very nice light show from the local audio company for us.
I had 20 input channels, 5 in ears and 1 stage monitor. It was very easy to mix the FOH sound and in ears/monitor for the band. We never had such a great sound before. Here are some photos:
On last Saturday we had the second gig on a small "Oktoberfest" with a very nice stage. And again, my X32 worked and sounded as supposed:
These two were our best gigs ever, now we're going on to four more shows in the next three weeks. But now there were two questions which came up while using the board live. Is it possible to hear my talkback mic on my headphones?
And the second one seems to be a bit more complex. I have configured some DCA groups, one for the vocals where it is no problem to solo this group. But I can't solo the other DCA groups (e.g. one for effects and another one for the drums, which are also routed to a sub group). All the level meters for DCA groups show nothing. Is this correct or what I am doing wrong?
Hi Guys,
I was very busy last week, so now some news from me.
I visited the Behringer team in Willich. Their engineer Axel opened my X32 and repaired my noisy channel 16. No big deal, only a cable which was misplaced. This was done in about 30 minutes. So thanks again for your help!
Then I had the first live gig with my band and the X32 at our local "Stadtfest" (it's called city festival I think!?) on Sunday last week. Normally we're used to do much smaller gigs, so this was a big PA and very nice light show from the local audio company for us.
I had 20 input channels, 5 in ears and 1 stage monitor. It was very easy to mix the FOH sound and in ears/monitor for the band. We never had such a great sound before. Here are some photos:
On last Saturday we had the second gig on a small "Oktoberfest" with a very nice stage. And again, my X32 worked and sounded as supposed:
These two were our best gigs ever, now we're going on to four more shows in the next three weeks. But now there were two questions which came up while using the board live. Is it possible to hear my talkback mic on my headphones?
And the second one seems to be a bit more complex. I have configured some DCA groups, one for the vocals where it is no problem to solo this group. But I can't solo the other DCA groups (e.g. one for effects and another one for the drums, which are also routed to a sub group). All the level meters for DCA groups show nothing. Is this correct or what I am doing wrong?
re: X32 Discussion
This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between "Bus Masters" and "Mix Buses" ?
This may be a dumb question but what is the difference between "Bus Masters" and "Mix Buses" ?
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re: X32 Discussion
'Buss" Masters is misspelled (actually wrong word correctly spelled), while master 'busses' is one of the two alternate spellings for 'buses' that is acceptable.
JR
'Buss" Masters is misspelled (actually wrong word correctly spelled), while master 'busses' is one of the two alternate spellings for 'buses' that is acceptable.
JR
re: X32 Discussion
This is my first experience with a digital board and configuring it.
Essentially I am trying to figure out how to control my stage monitors. I have them patched into the AUX outputs (simply because I didn't have any XLR adapters on me).
This is my first experience with a digital board and configuring it.
Essentially I am trying to figure out how to control my stage monitors. I have them patched into the AUX outputs (simply because I didn't have any XLR adapters on me).
re: X32 Discussion
..anyway, go to Routing and select the aux out tab. Patch your mix buses to the appropriate aux outs and you have control of you monitors.
Bus Masters are simply the "Master Faders" for the mix buses, I think :uhoh:
..anyway, go to Routing and select the aux out tab. Patch your mix buses to the appropriate aux outs and you have control of you monitors.
re: X32 Discussion
If you don't mind what are the speakers in the "Oktoberfest" photos. I can't quite make them out?
Thanks;
Douglas R. Allen
If you don't mind what are the speakers in the "Oktoberfest" photos. I can't quite make them out?
Thanks;
Douglas R. Allen