X32 Discussion

[Andrew Prince]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Have you had a look at Routing->Card Out to make sure you've mapped your input groups to the 4 "Local" groups (Local 1-8, Local 9-16, etc). You can map any 32 you wish, and I thought the default was set up this way, but maybe not. Now, bear in mind, the audio MUST be coming from the head-amp on the channel, NOT something else you've mapped to that fader (such as an Aux input, etc for an MP3 player). I test by just plugging a mic into the channel, and gently tapping on the windscreen.

That's exactly what I did. I am feeding inputs 1 & 2 from aux 1 & 2 and I didn't get audio. So I tried it with a mic in input 3 and mapping that to Reaper, but it still didn't show any audio coming in. I get audio from the master on the desk so it's not a desk issue - well, I'm not including the XUF card in that statement yet.

Also checked the routing and they're all at default: 1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32

The only other thing that bothers me is in all the screen shots and pictures I see XUF displayed on the desk main screen with a green light to show it's functioning but my desk only shows UF in that space, albeit with a green light.

I still think the card is faulty, but no way of knowing really.

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

I still think the card is faulty, but no way of knowing really.

Have you tried removing the card, powering up without the card, power down, reinstall the card and power up. Just in case there is a bad connection or the card hasn't been initialized right???
Don't know if it will make a difference at all, but quite a common thing to do whenever an expansion appears to be faulty, wether on a PC or on a desk.

Next thing would be to find a nearby X32 user and swap your card into his console ~;-)~:wink:

 

[Pat Ferdig]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

The X32 control panel software does indeed identify the X32. It also populates the Input and Output channels and ticking the box to specify hardware names to be included also makes the inputs appear differently in Reaper.

As for the ASIO driver I'm not sure. Like I said, I've never used Reaper before.

I do know that I went into the setup options, selected ASIO and Behringer XUF as the device. Below that there are two sets of options where you specify the start and end inputs and the start and end outputs. In both cases I set them to channel 1 and channel 32. Below that are a couple of options with tick boxes for sample rate and buffers (I think). I left them both unticked by default and changed the sample rate to 48000 same as the console.

Sorry, I'm working off memory here.

Then I remember hitting CTRL-T in the mixer view to bring a new channel up. In the track view, I selected input 1 as the hardware channel that feeds it and hit Record Enabled. When I'm playing music through channel 1 on the desk I would have expected something to register on the meter of channel 1 in Reaper no?

Kind regards, Andrew
Carillon Video - Professional Wedding Videographer & Wedding Video Production Services in Bolton, Manchester & all over the UK
Mama - The UKs 'all era' Genesis tribute band!

Dear Andrew, I just sent you a PM so we can further troubleshoot this issue and get it resolved.

 

[Tim Nielson]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

So I had a chance to look at Reaper last week for the first time. Aafter you set up the ASIO in the preferences then you need to add tracks. If you right click in the tracks area you have the option to add multiple tracks. You can add as many tracks as you want. They all end up being input 1 if you change any of them they all change. So instead right click on the input go down to the assign inputs sequentially option. You can only assign as many inputs as you made available in the preferences. Now you should be able to arm them to record and you can do multi-track recording. To play those tracks back to the board you have to go to the I/O button in each track and assign it to the output you want it on. Hit space or the Play button and you should get sound through any channel on the x32 you have set up as an input from the card

 

[Eric Hill - USA]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

So, anyone with experience of Reaper and an X32 have any pointers? It's got to be a hardware failure or something simple that I'm just not seeing in the Reaper manual.

Hi Andrew,

I recently started using Reaper over Firewire, and initially had some similar problems.

I'm not sure where the problem ultimately was.

However, after both the X32 and the workstation were started, I disconnected the Firewire cable, and plugged it back in.

It's been working ok ever since.

I don’t know if you’ve tried this… But, you might try the USB, along with Reaper. (That’s something I haven’t tried. But, if memory serves me, can also transport audio on the X32.)

Eric H.

 

[Andrew Prince]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Have you tried removing the card, powering up without the card, power down, reinstall the card and power up. Just in case there is a bad connection or the card hasn't been initialized right??? Don't know if it will make a difference at all, but quite a common thing to do whenever an expansion appears to be faulty, wether on a PC or on a desk.

Next thing would be to find a nearby X32 user and swap your card into his console ~;-)~:wink:

Indeed, both of those things would be next on my list if I thought I had a hardware fault and it was a computer I'd built myself. Alas, it's a shiny new X32 and I'm not going at it with a hammer. I'll fiddle with Reaper first.

Interesting that nobody came up with an obvious setting on the desk to check though. Obviously there isn't one.

Kind regards, Andrew
Mama - The UKs 'all era' Genesis tribute band!
www.carillonvideo.co.uk

 

[Eric Hill - USA]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

I won't go into all the details. But, I want to publically say that I continue to be very impressed with Behringer's customer service, and the CARE team in Vegas.

Eric H.

 

[Kevin Peters]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Is there a way to make the Xcontrol PC application mirror the display on the X32?

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Alas, it's a shiny new X32 and I'm not going at it with a hammer.

It is not going at it with a hammer. The card is a user-removable/exchangable expansion card by definition, taking it out can not affect warranty.
Only suggestion I have apart from doing hardware fiddling tests would be for someone to upload a working Reaper template along with a complete scene save from an X32 that works in Reaper. Can be uploaded to x32user.net if you need a place.

 

[Joe Sanborn]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Hi,
Currently the display does not mirror the internal TFT screen.
I will forward this onto our X32 development team.

Thanks for your feedback!

Best,
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

 

[Joe Sanborn]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Hi Guys,

If anyone is interested in learning more about the X32, our clinic tour is rolling through the following locations this week and next week:

Wed. 9/26
South Austin, TX @ Guitar Center (5300 South Mo Pac Expy ste. 103) (11:00 AM - 2:00 PM)


Wed. 9/26
Austin, TX @ Guitar Center (2525 West Anderson Lane Suite 200) (3:00 PM - 6:00 PM)


Wed. 9/26
Emeryville, CA @ Guitar Center (5925 Shellmound St.) (7:00 PM)


Thurs. 9/27
Concord, CA @ Guitar Center (1280 Willow Pass Rd.) (7:00 PM)


Fri. 9/28
Sacramento, CA @ Guitar Center (2120 Alta Arden Expy.) (7:00 PM)


Tues. 10/2
Beaverton, OR @ Guitar Center (9575 S.W. Cascade Ave.) (7:00 PM)


Wed. 10/3
Tacoma, WA @ Guitar Center (2919 South 38th St.) (7:00 PM)


Thurs. 10/4
Lynnwood, WA @ Guitar Center (18420 33rd Ave.) (7:00 PM)


Fri. 10/5
Seattle, WA @ Guitar Center (530 Westlake Ave.) (7:00 PM)


Send me a PM if you are in another area, and I may be able to arrange a personal X32 demo!


Best,


Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

 

[Brett Tippet]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Australia?

 

[Karl Barnes]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

Hi,
Currently the display does not mirror the internal TFT screen.
I will forward this onto our X32 development team.

Thanks for your feedback!

Best,
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

I like the fact that that I can use the PC screen to see things other that what the TFT display shows.
Please don't change it.
Or, if you do, at least give us the option switch the mirroring back off again.

Karl.

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

if you do, at least give us the option switch the mirroring back off again.

I second that, but expected that went without saying ~;-)~:wink:

 

[Andrew Prince]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

I disconnected the Firewire cable, and plugged it back in. It's been working ok ever since. I don’t know if you’ve tried this… But, you might try the USB, along with Reaper. (That’s something I haven’t tried. But, if memory serves me, can also transport audio on the X32.)

Thanks for the suggestion. I am staying away from Firewire. I use it regularly for capturing video so I know about the issues with it. I think USB should be quicker and I have laptops with USB available, so that's my plan.

But for the record, I fixed the problem. I'm not sure how, but I did. I basically went through all the Reaper settings in Device and I unticked (or ticked) each option and then ticked (or unticked) them again. Basically, I was just forcing Reaper to initialise its settings rather than actually changing any settings. Then it started working. I did write a lengthy explanation on the forum late last night but then my internet connection dropped and I lost it. I couldn't be bothered writing it again so I am just catching up now.

I won't go into all the details. But, I want to publically say that I continue to be very impressed with Behringer's customer service, and the CARE team in Vegas.

I agree with this. I doubted Behringers ability to 1. produce a quality piece of kit and 2. support it. So far, I have bought an X32 and I'm very impressed with the build quality and then as soon as I post a niggling potential problem, I got two Behringer guys hounding me with personal messages to get it fixed. I think it's fair to say that Behringer are taking this product more seriously than any other company in the history of pro audio. While I found it very strange to have Behringer contact me directly to help, it was most welcome. Thanks Pat and Joe. ~~:smile:

It is not going at it with a hammer. The card is a user-removable/exchangable expansion card by definition, taking it out can not affect warranty.

Noted for the future. Thanks Per. ~~:smile:

If anyone is interested in learning more about the X32, our clinic tour is rolling through the following locations this week and next week

Interesting to know that Behringer are still on the road. I myself have a 'band rehearsal' scheduled primarily to get to grips with the X32 on Saturday 29th September. I put the 'band rehearsal' in quotes because it's not a full rehearsal. It's just myself and the drummer to set up our PA and run through all the drums and get them right so that I'm not going into the next gig blind. We will also be doing some work with vocals and vocal effects (it's a Genesis tribute band after all). If anyone on the forum fancies coming down for a bit to check out the X32 and have a play while I've got a real life drummer you're more than welcome. It will be in the Widnes / Runcorn area around 1.30pm for a couple of hours. PM if interested.

I can't offer you what Behringer and their sales / technical team might offer on one of their roadshows because I'm not yet an X32 expert, but you'll be able to hear it, have a look and play and no doubt it will be fun.

Dear Andrew, I just sent you a PM so we can further troubleshoot this issue and get it resolved.

Indeed. Pleasantly surprised and also impressed. Thanks for the offer. Please pass on my thanks to Joe also. ~~:smile:

Kind regards, Andrew
Mama - The UKs 'all era' Genesis tribute band!
Carillon Video - Professional Wedding Videographer & Wedding Video Production Services in Bolton, Manchester & all over the UK

 

[Paul Kerrison]

Re: Reaper & USB over XUF card

To all at Behringer
I have to say that I'm mightily impressed not only with the x32 (sure there are some limitations) but also the after sales service that I'm reading about on the forum. If you are able to keep this up you will win many people over and quieten some of the critics. I haven't had a problem with my x32 but it is reassuring that if a problem did occur (remembering it is only a machine) that kind of speedy service is available. Please keep it up and well done!
Paul

 

[Jorge Duarte]

re: X32 Discussion

I don't know if this is how is meant to be, but when using the new Ipad app and pressing sends on faders, the meters on each channel on the ipad don't work, if you go to the sends page on each channel the meters work perfect... The Glitch just happens if you press Sends on Faders, youcan adjust the volume moving the faders but won't see the meters working, please anyone from behringer has taken note of this on the new app????...

Please help

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[Kevin Peters]

re: X32 Discussion

Hello all,
I want to say that I am very impressed with this new product and the support that is given. I submitted a post on here as well and Joe was very quick to respond, analyze our x32 layout, and offer some suggestions to make mixing more easy and convenient. We transitioned from a SoundCraft GB2 32 channel with a rack full of compressors and eq's plus a full aviom system to the X32 with the P16m's and we are completely happy so far with the product. Plus, we were able to sell all of the old gear for the price of the new Behringer stuff!

Thank you so much for this product and for a great price in this crazy economical time here in the states.

 

[Forrest Houghton]

re: X32 Discussion

Got my X32 a couple days ago, and I have to say that I am thoroughly pleased with it. After a quick firmware update (or should I say not so quick. Took awhile to find a flashdrive that the X32 would recognize, but once I found one it went through the update quickly.) from 1.03 to 1.08, I went through the list of things to check and luckily nothing is wrong. Got the XControl setup with it in two seconds. Nice and easy unlike Studio Manager. I did have a little trouble setting up the XUF card, only because I am a newbie when it comes to Reaper, but after fiddling around with the software I was able to figure how to playback multitracks through the console.

One of the things I would like to see with the XControl editor is the ability map midi controllers to it. f.e. I have an APC 40 and would like to map some of the knobs to control some parameters on the console, but still be wireless. Most editors I have seen have this ability, so it may be something to consider to implement in the final release.

The other thing I am going to look into this weekend is to somehow get TouchOSC on my Android phone to talk with either the console or the editor, since there is not an Android app yet. I am not too familiar when it comes to OSC or MIDI over Wifi so any advice would be helpful.

 

[Kevin Hunter]

re: X32 Discussion

Got my X32 a couple days ago, and I have to say that I am thoroughly pleased with it. After a quick firmware update (or should I say not so quick. Took awhile to find a flashdrive that the X32 would recognize, but once I found one it went through the update quickly.) from 1.03 to 1.08, I went through the list of things to check and luckily nothing is wrong. Got the XControl setup with it in two seconds. Nice and easy unlike Studio Manager. I did have a little trouble setting up the XUF card, only because I am a newbie when it comes to Reaper, but after fiddling around with the software I was able to figure how to playback multitracks through the console.

One of the things I would like to see with the XControl editor is the ability map midi controllers to it. f.e. I have an APC 40 and would like to map some of the knobs to control some parameters on the console, but still be wireless. Most editors I have seen have this ability, so it may be something to consider to implement in the final release.

The other thing I am going to look into this weekend is to somehow get TouchOSC on my Android phone to talk with either the console or the editor, since there is not an Android app yet. I am not too familiar when it comes to OSC or MIDI over Wifi so any advice would be helpful.

For OSC check out http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/5339-x32-theatrical-work-2.html#post37542 and X32 User Net • View topic - Controlling the X32 with OSC

Kev