I have been trying to figure out if the X32 would work for my needs.
Hello Kevin, i too do a lot of musical theatre and are looking at the x32 but i am not sure exactly how you want the scene recall to function.
Personally i use the recalls on the iLive to mute mics off stage and assign the onstage mics to dca controls so that the mics i need are always at my fingertips, labeled and in the order i need them. individual levels and Eq's are set during a soundcheck scene and do not need to be saved or recalled during any other scene until the end of the show where i do a store to save any alterations i have made during the run of the show to create a starting point for the next soundcheck.
In that sense you should not really need to update your scenes during a show unless you are also using the scenes to alter the orchestra mix.
>I started the X32 for theatrical thread in hopes of finding other people that were trying to do the same thing I am. And I get the feeling that maybe I am more unique then I think I am.
I will head over there and have a look shortly
>I usually do 4 theatrical shows a year and at the rate we are renting consoles for I was (dreaming) thinking that the X32 would work for me for those shows. I used an M7 again for the last show and I am not a fan.
I too do around 4-6 shows a year and the X32 looks great for the smaller shows, but i normally handle shows with 48 inputs so the console is a little small for my needs ATM.
>"What Kevin referred to is actually related to the Setup/Global setting "Scene Go Next", which automatically sets the selection to the next scene in line.
Perhaps an option in the system needs to be an "update, next" similar to what the iLive (which is the console i use and still have great trouble with the scene management) where you can assign a soft key to udate the current cue then sit ready to hit the go button to recall the next cue.
>I am fairly sure that this is how the iLive used to work. I think they changed it.
It still works that way, but is still a pain in the arse to actually operate a show with.
>I think it shows a different work flow mentality then someone that has theater in mind. I mean there is no way to insert a scene. And maybe the theater market is just too small for them to think about it.
Almost no digital consoles on the market have been designed with theatre users in mind. What a theatre operator wants the desk to do is simply more than the manufacturers are prepared to do for what is fundimentally a niche market. very few musical theatre operators at this level and budget are prepared to spent the time creating hundreds of scenes to allow for every cast entry and exit so they dont have to worry about finding mute buttons on the fly. Most manufacturers cater for the live market where you might have a system setup scene, followed by a soundcheck scene, followed by a scene stored for each song or band etc.
>So maybe my wording (“Yet another digital console that is designed by people that have no concept of what is needed for musical theater.”) was a bit strong but I stand by the meaning of my post.
Yes it was strong, but still in essence accurate. More likely it is not something they are willing to spend the time in to get a multi purpose console on the market. We are not talking about an amek recall or a cadac console here!
Perhaps you should look at using a dedicated show control software such as "Palladium" and it's supporting softwares, created and designed by a pro theatre designer and operator Chris Hubbard.
www.chsounddesign.com. The software is designed to control multiple desks via midi, as well as firing sound effects and changing mic eq's to match performers and substitute for understudies. This is a system designed to do precisely exactly what i think you are wanting the x32 to do.
The other added benefit is that almost every major show is the same. so you can take the communal show file from the website and apply it to your situation by inputting the relevant information
I apologise if I too have misunderstood.
Regards.
