Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
It will stay digital with no conversion and no latency.
It will stay digital with no conversion and no latency.
X32 Discussion
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Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
What is the benefit of setting it up as a matrix over simple bus? Matrix, is one area which I don't fully understand yet. As I understand it, the main's L/R are a matrix, I assume that's because it has all inputs, then it also has all effects, eq, compressor/limitor, etc.. affecting all those inputs (on a per input basis), making it a matrix. Do I have that right? So by making a monitor output a matrix, I get the benefit of being able to configure each channel's settings individually, rather than just having control (eq/compressor/limiter/etc..) over the mix bus?
Strange, might have just been an accidental change, this setting was mostly setup when we first setup the board, so we were still mis-navigating and such. Generally, our bus faders do infact affect the actual output to the montitors.
What is the benefit of setting it up as a matrix over simple bus? Matrix, is one area which I don't fully understand yet. As I understand it, the main's L/R are a matrix, I assume that's because it has all inputs, then it also has all effects, eq, compressor/limitor, etc.. affecting all those inputs (on a per input basis), making it a matrix. Do I have that right? So by making a monitor output a matrix, I get the benefit of being able to configure each channel's settings individually, rather than just having control (eq/compressor/limiter/etc..) over the mix bus?
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
Is there any logic with the "PRE" lights on the busses. Sometimes they light up on my busses who are set as pre fader and sometimes they are off. Even if i don't change anything in the configuration. Also when they are off, the bus still functions as pre fader bus. Is this a known issue?
Is there any logic with the "PRE" lights on the busses. Sometimes they light up on my busses who are set as pre fader and sometimes they are off. Even if i don't change anything in the configuration. Also when they are off, the bus still functions as pre fader bus. Is this a known issue?
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
An audio matrix is used to route groups of outputs to multiple locations.
In this instance that means both the monitor bus and the L/R bus can be mixed together and sent to a single output connector.
The X32 has six matrix busses, all of the sixteen mix busses, the L/R bus, and the Mono bus can be assigned to any of them at different levels for different applications.
In other words the matrix is a mix of mixes, you can blend together any of the outputs to create a new combined version, without the dangers or added latency of looping a signal back to an input.
An audio matrix is used to route groups of outputs to multiple locations.
In this instance that means both the monitor bus and the L/R bus can be mixed together and sent to a single output connector.
The X32 has six matrix busses, all of the sixteen mix busses, the L/R bus, and the Mono bus can be assigned to any of them at different levels for different applications.
In other words the matrix is a mix of mixes, you can blend together any of the outputs to create a new combined version, without the dangers or added latency of looping a signal back to an input.
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
Ahh perfect, thanks, that clarifies it for me
Re: PNW AES Audio over Ethernet Cable Wrapup online
A description with audio recordings and background info is now online at
AES PNW Meeting Report - Everything You Need To Know About Using Ethernet Cable for Portable Audio
A description with audio recordings and background info is now online at
AES PNW Meeting Report - Everything You Need To Know About Using Ethernet Cable for Portable Audio
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
Yes, there is logic. The pre light lights up according to send status on the selected input channel.
Yes, there is logic. The pre light lights up according to send status on the selected input channel.
Digital Split/monitor desk
Hi. I'm trying to pair up 2 x32's, using the inputs on the monitor desk patched to the FOH desk. I'm going to the settings and selecting the AES inputs for each channel, but I'm not getting any signal on the FOH board. I've got to be missing something simple here. Any clues?
Thanks.
Hi. I'm trying to pair up 2 x32's, using the inputs on the monitor desk patched to the FOH desk. I'm going to the settings and selecting the AES inputs for each channel, but I'm not getting any signal on the FOH board. I've got to be missing something simple here. Any clues?
Thanks.
Re: Digital Split/monitor desk
On the monitor board, you need to patch the channels to the AES50. Go to the AES50A (if that's the one you're using) and set the first 32 channels to local 1-32 (1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32)
On the monitor board, you need to patch the channels to the AES50. Go to the AES50A (if that's the one you're using) and set the first 32 channels to local 1-32 (1-8, 9-16, 17-24, 25-32)
Live recording
Here's a tune recorded off the X32 Live at a show last saturday using the USB Stick 2 tracks Hope ya like ..
Medallion-zack brown by Livemusic Festus on SoundCloud - Hear the world
Randy
Here's a tune recorded off the X32 Live at a show last saturday using the USB Stick 2 tracks Hope ya like ..
Medallion-zack brown by Livemusic Festus on SoundCloud - Hear the world
Randy
Re: Digital Split/monitor desk
I'm not sure why, but I seem to have found that you need to set the SYNCHRONIZATION to AES50-A/B on the FOH board as well. Do this in SETUP UTILITY Config tab I believe- I'm not at the console just now.
I'm not sure why, but I seem to have found that you need to set the SYNCHRONIZATION to AES50-A/B on the FOH board as well. Do this in SETUP UTILITY Config tab I believe- I'm not at the console just now.
Re: Digital Split/monitor desk
While we seem to be on topic of using a MON console for split, with AES50 out to front of house, is it possible to send the FOH outputs BACK to the monitor desk for system drive? I've played around on our two but all I can seem to figure is I could use AES50-B to rout FOH outputs back, take them IN to the MON desk and rout those back out again? Not sure this is ideal- I don't think I'll trust my monitor guy THAT much!
While we seem to be on topic of using a MON console for split, with AES50 out to front of house, is it possible to send the FOH outputs BACK to the monitor desk for system drive? I've played around on our two but all I can seem to figure is I could use AES50-B to rout FOH outputs back, take them IN to the MON desk and rout those back out again? Not sure this is ideal- I don't think I'll trust my monitor guy THAT much!
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
But often the leds don't light up, even when the bus is setup pre
fader. After some bank switching they suddenly light up. I've seen this with multiple x32's so it's not related to my mixer.
But often the leds don't light up, even when the bus is setup pre
fader. After some bank switching they suddenly light up. I've seen this with multiple x32's so it's not related to my mixer.
Re: Digital Split/monitor desk
Yes, one of the consoles need to be synced to AES50, and it is natural that the FOH board is the slave although it should work the other way around as well (but it would be rather pointless and in many cases counter-productive to have the FOH as sync. master). And of course both boards need to be at the same sample rate.
There is a problem with this approach, you need to use up inputs in the monitor desk to get it done. At the moment it is the only way, there is no direct routing to outputs unless you have assigned to an input. You don't need to use B to route back, you can use A in both directions. If you mains requirement is modest, you could use the four first auxes for mains input to the monitor console, then you would have your 32 primary channels free.
If you don't trust your monitor guy, then it is time to find that trust or to reassign jobs. Monitors is the most difficult job, "anybody" can do FOH~;-)~:wink: . With this set-up, the monitor console is the heart of the system, and should preferably be manned by the one that sets it up and understands the whole system and has the mental capacity, experience, ears and musician lingo to do a good job for everybody. In a setting where tech talent is scarce, it often makes sense to have the one with most competence set up everything, including getting the right sound in the channels and off the mains, and then leaving the actual foh mix to someone else while the top guy mans the monitors.
Yes, one of the consoles need to be synced to AES50, and it is natural that the FOH board is the slave although it should work the other way around as well (but it would be rather pointless and in many cases counter-productive to have the FOH as sync. master). And of course both boards need to be at the same sample rate.
There is a problem with this approach, you need to use up inputs in the monitor desk to get it done. At the moment it is the only way, there is no direct routing to outputs unless you have assigned to an input. You don't need to use B to route back, you can use A in both directions. If you mains requirement is modest, you could use the four first auxes for mains input to the monitor console, then you would have your 32 primary channels free.
If you don't trust your monitor guy, then it is time to find that trust or to reassign jobs. Monitors is the most difficult job, "anybody" can do FOH
~;-)~:wink: . With this set-up, the monitor console is the heart of the system, and should preferably be manned by the one that sets it up and understands the whole system and has the mental capacity, experience, ears and musician lingo to do a good job for everybody. In a setting where tech talent is scarce, it often makes sense to have the one with most competence set up everything, including getting the right sound in the channels and off the mains, and then leaving the actual foh mix to someone else while the top guy mans the monitors.
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
My board might be different, but it works as I have described every time. Remember it totally depends on which input/aux/effects return channel is selected and the bus setup for that particular channel. If you select ch1, and have the home - sends tab up in the display, and have the Bus 1-8 bank selected on the right, you should see the correlation if you change the pre-post assignment. Now, after changing, if you then select ch2, the lights might change if the pre-post assignments is different for this channel. Try and make the assignments different for a few of the channels, and then move from channel to channel, you should see the lights changing.
My board might be different, but it works as I have described every time. Remember it totally depends on which input/aux/effects return channel is selected and the bus setup for that particular channel. If you select ch1, and have the home - sends tab up in the display, and have the Bus 1-8 bank selected on the right, you should see the correlation if you change the pre-post assignment. Now, after changing, if you then select ch2, the lights might change if the pre-post assignments is different for this channel. Try and make the assignments different for a few of the channels, and then move from channel to channel, you should see the lights changing.
Re: Compact Shipping
They started shipping about 3 weeks ago. I would think you should see them in stores within another 3 weeks.
They started shipping about 3 weeks ago. I would think you should see them in stores within another 3 weeks.
Re: Pop. crackle and feedback problems
While on many consoles need to configure the busses to be either pre or post the x32 let you to configure the send for each channel to each send buss. This is very flexible but can be confusing at some times...
Remember that it's not the busses that are configured pre/post but the actual channel that does the send.
While on many consoles need to configure the busses to be either pre or post the x32 let you to configure the send for each channel to each send buss. This is very flexible but can be confusing at some times...
Re: Compact Shipping
Dear Mark,
X32 COMPACT Update:
The X32 COMPACT is already available in some stores.
In the US it might take a few more weeks.
Behringer: DIGITAL MIXER X32 COMPACT
Hope it helps.
Dear Mark,
X32 COMPACT Update:
The X32 COMPACT is already available in some stores.
In the US it might take a few more weeks.
Behringer: DIGITAL MIXER X32 COMPACT
Hope it helps.
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Re: Digital Split/monitor desk
What we found at the festival in which there were multiple rooms with multiple X32 FOH/Mon combos, was that it was not so much an issue of competence as attention.
The monitor operator almost never needs ALL inputs to be sent to the monitors (think rack toms, overheads, bass mic vs. di, etc.), and so pays little attention to proper gain staging for those "other" inputs. The operator has hands full without that "extra" duty.
Because FOH is downstream from Mon console (in the easiest to set up format), lack of proper gain staging can be a problem. It's easy to overlook unused inputs, apparently, even though they're right there on the console.
Maybe in a world where the FOH and Mon operators work together all the time with the same gear, the process could become normal. As is in my world, they are not together enough to develop a specialized workflow.
Current thinking is to double up on S16's, with a Y cord patch panel ahead of them. Haven't done this yet, though, as I haven't been doing that kind of gigs.
If you don't trust your monitor guy, then it is time to find that trust or to reassign jobs. Monitors is the most difficult job, "anybody" can do FOH
What we found at the festival in which there were multiple rooms with multiple X32 FOH/Mon combos, was that it was not so much an issue of competence as attention.
The monitor operator almost never needs ALL inputs to be sent to the monitors (think rack toms, overheads, bass mic vs. di, etc.), and so pays little attention to proper gain staging for those "other" inputs. The operator has hands full without that "extra" duty.
Because FOH is downstream from Mon console (in the easiest to set up format), lack of proper gain staging can be a problem. It's easy to overlook unused inputs, apparently, even though they're right there on the console.
Maybe in a world where the FOH and Mon operators work together all the time with the same gear, the process could become normal. As is in my world, they are not together enough to develop a specialized workflow.
Current thinking is to double up on S16's, with a Y cord patch panel ahead of them. Haven't done this yet, though, as I haven't been doing that kind of gigs.