Re: New Midas M32 Console
Chase actually say
and this equals 192 channels in both directions.
New Midas M32 Console
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Re: New Midas M32 Console
They will not be p&g faders. The faders are Midas's own design and are supposedly have a longer life that any others in the market.
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They will not be p&g faders. The faders are Midas's own design and are supposedly have a longer life that any others in the market.
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Re: New Midas M32 Console
Yes, from now on all newly manufactured Midas consoles (and I take it the KT Rapide too) will be using these new custom motor faders.
I suppose making them in house means they can make a better quality fader for a cheaper price.
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Yes, from now on all newly manufactured Midas consoles (and I take it the KT Rapide too) will be using these new custom motor faders.
I suppose making them in house means they can make a better quality fader for a cheaper price.
Sent from my Nokia Lumia 625
Re: New Midas M32 Console
Technology is a driving factor that brings prices down. Do you think that the big players WANT to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a piece of gear? If there are 2 pieces of gear that offer the same performance, functionality, and reliability, but one cost half the price, why would ANY business buy the more expensive unit??
The downside of lower priced gear is that more people are tempted to enter the market because the startup investment is lower. More competition in the market usually means lower prices that can be charged to get the job.
Technology is a driving factor that brings prices down. Do you think that the big players WANT to spend tens of thousands of dollars on a piece of gear? If there are 2 pieces of gear that offer the same performance, functionality, and reliability, but one cost half the price, why would ANY business buy the more expensive unit??
The downside of lower priced gear is that more people are tempted to enter the market because the startup investment is lower. More competition in the market usually means lower prices that can be charged to get the job.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
So how do you feel about the Soundcraft Expression consoles? Essentially the same thing as the SI Compact, but less than half the price with little warning. Did Soundcraft do anything to protect the customers?
So how do you feel about the Soundcraft Expression consoles? Essentially the same thing as the SI Compact, but less than half the price with little warning. Did Soundcraft do anything to protect the customers?
Re: New Midas M32 Console
That is a 4000 buck console. As opposed to a 120.000 Dollar System. A bit lame that comparison. I am loosing that a week in Rental, never mind resale. Or in other words. That is the warehouse guy out the job!
Re: New Midas M32 Console
Oh , OK that's different then. I thought you all were saying they were meeting standards of a real desk. Now I see by your comment it is one of those "it's great for what it is, which isn't much" kind of things. Thanks for the clarification. Now, why is this in the Varsity section?
Oh , OK that's different then. I thought you all were saying they were meeting standards of a real desk. Now I see by your comment it is one of those "it's great for what it is, which isn't much" kind of things. Thanks for the clarification. Now, why is this in the Varsity section?
Re: New Midas M32 Console
It seems like the right thing to do is to rebate the 30% to the folks that paid more. The continued loyalty would more than make up the loss to the company. The folks that paid more originally could then drop rental rates without the loss of ROI and be able to compete in the market with the folks that purchased a brand new desk for less.
It seems like the right thing to do is to rebate the 30% to the folks that paid more. The continued loyalty would more than make up the loss to the company. The folks that paid more originally could then drop rental rates without the loss of ROI and be able to compete in the market with the folks that purchased a brand new desk for less.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
Dear All,
Thank you for the questions.
As the M32 is still in final development, at the current time we cannot comment on how 96kHz will be implemented. We will follow up with more information as it becomes available.
Yes, the M32 features MIDAS PRO Series preamps, also found in the PRO 1/2/3/6/9 consoles. Its top-shelf A/D converters can support 192kHz, whereas some converter chipsets have a maximum sample rate of 96kHz (or lower). Using these high-quality converters allows for increased S/N ratio and dynamic range.
No, they will be MIDAS PRO faders, which are built in-house and are rated for 1 million cycles. This is over 3 times the industry standard of 300,000 cycles, providing the kind of unprecedented durability that MIDAS has always been known for.
96 channels implies how many channels in and out (via AES50 @ 48K) can be viewed on its network. Please see this for more information relating to our AES50 protocol:
http://bit.ly/1fa5KAW
At this time, AES50 redundancy is not supported.
Best,
Chase McKnight
Specialist, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
MIDAS
Dear All,
Thank you for the questions.
As the M32 is still in final development, at the current time we cannot comment on how 96kHz will be implemented. We will follow up with more information as it becomes available.
Yes, the M32 features MIDAS PRO Series preamps, also found in the PRO 1/2/3/6/9 consoles. Its top-shelf A/D converters can support 192kHz, whereas some converter chipsets have a maximum sample rate of 96kHz (or lower). Using these high-quality converters allows for increased S/N ratio and dynamic range.
No, they will be MIDAS PRO faders, which are built in-house and are rated for 1 million cycles. This is over 3 times the industry standard of 300,000 cycles, providing the kind of unprecedented durability that MIDAS has always been known for.
96 channels implies how many channels in and out (via AES50 @ 48K) can be viewed on its network. Please see this for more information relating to our AES50 protocol:
http://bit.ly/1fa5KAW
At this time, AES50 redundancy is not supported.
Best,
Chase McKnight
Specialist, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
MIDAS
Re: New Midas M32 Console
I am willing to demo the desk and put it through a few shows and measure it if they want to send me one. If I don't like it, I'll say so, but if I do I'll also say so. Hey, I might even buy it, but I'm not holding my breath on that.
I am willing to demo the desk and put it through a few shows and measure it if they want to send me one. If I don't like it, I'll say so, but if I do I'll also say so. Hey, I might even buy it, but I'm not holding my breath on that.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
I've ordered one. There are so many haters out there and it's kinda getting boring listening to the arguments. Think Midas have made a good move they have wiped the likes of Ls9 out of the market with this. Yes the x32 is a behringer desk but if you play with it it's quite intuitive. It does have it's down sides we are already seeing failures in faders, rotaries and psu's but with a three year warranty your can't complain. I think we can expect and awesome product in the m32 and I can't wait to have it in front of me and mix my first show on it.
Sam
I've ordered one. There are so many haters out there and it's kinda getting boring listening to the arguments. Think Midas have made a good move they have wiped the likes of Ls9 out of the market with this. Yes the x32 is a behringer desk but if you play with it it's quite intuitive. It does have it's down sides we are already seeing failures in faders, rotaries and psu's but with a three year warranty your can't complain. I think we can expect and awesome product in the m32 and I can't wait to have it in front of me and mix my first show on it.
Sam
Re: New Midas M32 Console
I wonder if the Midas warranty is the same as the Behringer warranty? If so the faders are only covered for one year.
I wonder if the Midas warranty is the same as the Behringer warranty? If so the faders are only covered for one year.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
John, good point, however, it is not like Yamaha LS9 /M7 faders were top performers.
I wouldn't expect much more for a sub $15000 console...
Jason
John, good point, however, it is not like Yamaha LS9 /M7 faders were top performers.
I wouldn't expect much more for a sub $15000 console...
Jason
Re: New Midas M32 Console
HOLY CRAP!!! You mean the m32/x32 aren't the best consoles evar?!? You don't expect every single feature anyone could ever possibly think of for 2 grand?!?!?
You my friend, have a great view of these desks: They're alright for the money.
I can't stand it when people try to make them out to be more than they are, or expect features way above it's price point. More people need to be realistic.
HOLY CRAP!!! You mean the m32/x32 aren't the best consoles evar?!? You don't expect every single feature anyone could ever possibly think of for 2 grand?!?!?
You my friend, have a great view of these desks: They're alright for the money.
I can't stand it when people try to make them out to be more than they are, or expect features way above it's price point. More people need to be realistic.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
Features way above its price-point is what what the X32 is about in the first place.
Features way above its price-point is what what the X32 is about in the first place.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
If you read the details of the "Warranty Limitations and Exclusions" in Behringer's Limited Warranty, BEHRINGER: Limited Warranty, that seems to limit coverage of potentiometers, motorized faders and "Any mechanical component that may be affected by externally applied force" to one year and coverage of PSUs to 90 days.
Re: New Midas M32 Console
Im talking about the X32 the M32 has completly different internal hardware so what's the problem
Im talking about the X32 the M32 has completly different internal hardware so what's the problem
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I don't think the waranty for the M32 is yet available but it will be interesting to see if it has the same exclusions as the Behringer Limited Warranty, if it is more like the other Midas warranties that do not have all of the same hardware exclusions or if it is some mix, e.g. not limiting coverage on the faders but still limiting coverage for pots. If the M32 does not have any of the hardware exclusions and all the faders, pots, buttons, etc. are covered for three years then that might be a factor for some people.
In reference to the X32 you said "It does have it's down sides we are already seeing failures in faders, rotaries and psu's but with a three year warranty your can't complain." and I was just pointing out that due to the Warranty Limitations and Exclusions of the Behringer Limited Warranty the coverage does not seem to be three years for the parts you mentioned.
I don't think the waranty for the M32 is yet available but it will be interesting to see if it has the same exclusions as the Behringer Limited Warranty, if it is more like the other Midas warranties that do not have all of the same hardware exclusions or if it is some mix, e.g. not limiting coverage on the faders but still limiting coverage for pots. If the M32 does not have any of the hardware exclusions and all the faders, pots, buttons, etc. are covered for three years then that might be a factor for some people.