X32 Discussion

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

I'm trying to play audio from a synth into Aux 5 + 6 Ins

The X32 passes that through to the PA

How do I route the Aux 5 + 6 audio to the X-UF card outputs to record on a PC?

Aux 1 - 4 are already assigned to the Card Out 1 - 4. That works fine. Sends audio to the PC and back to the X32.

Is there something I've missed with Aux 5 + 6?

I'm waiting for some extra xlr cables to arrive so I can just use Input 1 - 8 etc Meanwhile it would be helpful to send Aux 5 + 6 to the X-UF outs.

Yes, you have to route the block of auxes to a block of expansion card outputs in routing/card out. You can route the input to any input channel from input patch, but that will not alter what is going to the card, so the card out has to be assigned to the aux1-6/mon. Read the last couple of pages on this topic, starting here: http://soundforums.net/junior-varsity/4393-x32-discussion-113.html#post39598

 

[Chris Wadden]

re: X32 Discussion

Hi Chris, don't quite get this. If you are running mono monitors on adjacent mix buses and insert the dual geq, you are using up only those two eqs.
What am I missing?

Hello Per! As far as I can tell, you cannot assign a specific page A or B to an Assignment button. You can only select the slot itself.
So the only way I can have a direct access button is by having each on their own slot. Once the assignment allows to select between
each page independently, I can then use only the two EQ's for my four Mix Busses. Does that make sense?

While I'm posting again I wanted to say I also would have loved to be offered the X32 just as a control surface bundled with one or
two S16's. I know nothing about manufacturing so maybe something like that wouldn't be feasible. But it would be great for someone like
me as I almost never connect things locally to the board, except of course Aux Inputs for Ipods and CD players.

Chris

 

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

Am I the only one, who miss the dual dynamics from the channel strip? I mean not Gate + comp, but comp + comp in order to be able to use a copressor and a deesser... (deesser like a compressor with a side-chain EQ), anyhow the new Yamaha CL series has a real Deesser in the dynamics section, which would be really nice on the X32 as well....
Also in the FX rack a multiband Dyn EQ would be just great....

Best Regards,

Tamas

Uli has promised us more plugins, including a de-esser. I think the de-esser was supposed to be in the 1.09 upgrade and they perhaps just forgot because they had so much stuff to put in, so maybe they'll remember to throw it in when they pack the 1.10

 

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

Hello Per! As far as I can tell, you cannot assign a specific page A or B to an Assignment button. You can only select the slot itself.
So the only way I can have a direct access button is by having each on their own slot. Once the assignment allows to select between
each page independently, I can then use only the two EQ's for my four Mix Busses. Does that make sense?

While I'm posting again I wanted to say I also would have loved to be offered the X32 just as a control surface bundled with one or
two S16's. I know nothing about manufacturing so maybe something like that wouldn't be feasible. But it would be great for someone like
me as I almost never connect things locally to the board, except of course Aux Inputs for Ipods and CD players.

Chris

OK, got you, you are talking about the assignment of the programmable buttons, not the assignment of the eq, my bad.
I definitely agree that the buttons are very limited, I would certainly like something where you could record a set of button pushes, like recording a macro in excel, and that you could even edit a string in the remote or in a texteditor and put it back. Haven't actually tried the latter, maybe I will, you never know when there is a door behind the wallpaper.

As far as a io-stripped X32 goes, I can't see any reason why that would take too much of an effort. Just send the bacpanel mounting eployee and the io-card mounting employee on a little holliday and maybe write a little firmware update and you're all set. What to do with the empty space? With somewhat more of an effort it could be taken by more expansion slots and maybe a couple of 2 TB drives for on-board recording. Yummy!!

 

[Walter Mielke]

re: X32 Discussion

Crashing and UPS, somewhat frustrating to find that the manufacturers of UPS are very sparse with their information these days. I'm was used to seeing information about type of conversion and switch-over time where appliccable in the datasheets of every UPS I looked at the last time I looked for one, but these days it seems that such information isn't deemed essential (my old Merlingerin ups with a specified switchover of less than two cycles i.e. <40 ms crashes the X32).
However, I found that my new UPS of choice, the Eaton 3s is indeed an offline model with unspecified switch-over time. I think I'm going to get it anyway and see if I can provoke the X32 into crashing, or even better, measure the time and quality of transition. If anybody have other suggestions for a low price compact UPS that they have tried (or not), please chime in.

Question for Joe Sanborn: Would it be possible to provide for an aftermarket upgrade of the rail caps to provide for somewhat longer brownout and switchover tolerance?

I use at the beginning August a APC Back-UPS ES-500. Since I have experienced several times a power failure without disturbances or crash of the x32.
Before the gig, during the set up, it often happens that the light-boys several times switch the mains plug, while I was preparing a show. No problem with it.

 

[Jaap Geurts van Kessel]

re: X32 Discussion

Has anyone been able to connect a midi-keyboard or drums to a pc via the x32 midi-inputs (and usb output) for recording purposes? I just can get it figured out... The 'midi in/out' is set to 'on' in the x32 and the X32 midi-port shows on my pc together with all the other in- and ouputs. I just can't get any signal in. I have another midi-keyboard directly connected via usb that work's flawlessly.

I could get a seperate midi-interface but since there's a port on the x32...

 

[Florian Parzer]

re: X32 Discussion

anyhow the new Yamaha CL series has a real Deesser in the dynamics section, which would be really nice on the X32 as well....
Also in the FX rack a multiband Dyn EQ would be just great....

keep in mind that the price for CL is way higher but i also would like to have a real de-esser and a multi. i think uli behringer already posted in this thread, that there'll be a major v2 update next year which will likely also feature a de-esser and multiband-comp.

my old Merlingerin ups with a specified switchover of less than two cycles i.e. <40 ms crashes the X32

i also use a cheapo apc (APC Back-UPS 400, 230V, German & Dutch) which we also use at austrian broadcast station and it also works fine with the x32. it should give you ~18min power for the 120W of the X32.

 

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

I use at the beginning August a APC Back-UPS ES-500. Since I have experienced several times a power failure without disturbances or crash of the x32.
Before the gig, during the set up, it often happens that the light-boys several times switch the mains plug, while I was preparing a show. No problem with it.

Looks like the same kind of animal as the Eaton, wouldn't be surprised if they share most of the DNA. Promising indeed. I hardly see the point of spending silly money on a UPS if I don't need to, something that will fit inside the flightcase is really my first and only priority as long as it serves the purpose of giving me time to plug the wall plug back in or power down gracefully.

 

[Walter Mielke]

re: X32 Discussion

Looks like the same kind of animal as the Eaton, wouldn't be surprised if they share most of the DNA. Promising indeed. I hardly see the point of spending silly money on a UPS if I don't need to, something that will fit inside the flightcase is really my first and only priority as long as it serves the purpose of giving me time to plug the wall plug back in or power down gracefully.

The APC ES-500 will fit in the Case. You must cut the small edge on the cable side. Then they screwed on a 2U Rack Panel.

Walter

 

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

Has anyone been able to connect a midi-keyboard or drums to a pc via the x32 midi-inputs (and usb output) for recording purposes? I just can get it figured out... The 'midi in/out' is set to 'on' in the x32 and the X32 midi-port shows on my pc together with all the other in- and ouputs. I just can't get any signal in. I have another midi-keyboard directly connected via usb that work's flawlessly.

I could get a seperate midi-interface but since there's a port on the x32...

The midi is not a computer-to-midi interface, but a comunication between the X32 and whatever is connected. You can send or receive midi data between the X32 and the outside, but there is no midi through implemented (yet)

 

[Nick Sheridan]

re: X32 Discussion

Firstly I would like to thank the UK service dept of Music Group. I had a small cosmetic issue with my X32 which I was willing to live with having negotiated some money off with the supplier. However the support dept contacted me without me even having reported the issue to Behringer and offered to fix it, I guess they read my one post on this forum. They proactively drove the whole process contacting me by both phone and email and arranging the collection of the desk etc. I needed the desk for a gig last Friday and sure enough it was returned in time fully repaired. Outstanding service!

Now as I'm working through all the features I have come across something which I'm not sure is a bug or me just doing something wrong. If I insert a graphic into any of the bus sends or the master LR and solo the bus I can only hear the effect if the insert is set to pre. I have the solo on the bus set to after fader so I would expect to hear the effect regardless of insert position. Am I doing something wrong?

 

[Per Søvik]

re: X32 Discussion

The APC ES-500 will fit in the Case. You must cut the small edge on the cable side. Then they screwed on a 2U Rack Panel.

Walter

Nice, that's the 350 isn't it? Seems to be very popular because it's out of stock everywhere, actually wondering if it has been discontinued because I can't find it on the UPC site. Edit: Found the 500 model, but still unable to actually find it for sale

 

[Robert Lofgren]

re: X32 Discussion

Found a slight bug.

Using the card input from my daw I noticed that the gate didn't operate correctly.

The gate seems to trigger approx. 12dB above set value in this setup.

Edit: This only happens on ch-1 as far as I can tell for now. Need to do more tests if B. Can't reproduce.



Edit 2: This is possibly an user error combined with feature not clearly visible.

When using the gate key filter one lowers the actual signal to trig. This is obvious when you think about it, but it makes it impossible to set the level based on meter information and one must rely on ears instead.

I'm not sure how this would work otherwise but somehow I'd like the meter to reflect the key filter on the gate page.

I hope that I make any sense...

 

[Walter Mielke]

re: X32 Discussion

Nice, that's the 350 isn't it? Seems to be very popular because it's out of stock everywhere, actually wondering if it has been discontinued because I can't find it on the UPC site.

Yes its discontinued. I had bought 5 pcs few years ago. Look on eBay, there are still some and new batteries cost 10 - 20 €.

Walter

 

[Brian Merritt]

re: X32 Discussion

1) how long did it take for the right fader to be released again? never had this kind of a problem, but i probably never grabbed the right fader just after moving the left one.

2) you can route every input you selected in "routing/home" on every channel. so if i choose local 1-8 i can use input 1-8 on channel 1-32 and aux in 1-8.

cheers,
flo

Thanks for the reply.

1) It was pretty quickly, like say I moved up linked channels with the left fader, realized it was too high and grabbed the right and pulled it down. Like right after i stopped moving it with the left. I want to clarify I wasn't trying to move them both at the same time, but it was back to back. I know it isn't a common occurrence but I wasn't trying to make it happen at first either, it was a natural movement for me to do it that way.

2) I did not see that option, but when I get my board I will look more into this, because this is very important to me. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Looking forward to it!

 

[Robert Lofgren]

re: X32 Discussion

Thanks for the reply.

1) It was pretty quickly, like say I moved up linked channels with the left fader, realized it was too high and grabbed the right and pulled it down. Like right after i stopped moving it with the left. I want to clarify I wasn't trying to move them both at the same time, but it was back to back. I know it isn't a common occurrence but I wasn't trying to make it happen at first either, it was a natural movement for me to do it that way.

2) I did not see that option, but when I get my board I will look more into this, because this is very important to me. Thanks for pointing it out to me.

Looking forward to it!

I'd say it takes approx one second for the other fader to release. I also feel that's a little bit too long time as my fingers operate faster than my brain ;-)

 

[Jim Schmidtke]

re: X32 Discussion

Hi Gang.

Just wanted to report that I set up our console to work with Sonar X1 at our studio this weekend. Everything is working flawlessly. Used Firewire for the interface and ASIO driver mode with no problems at all. I'm sending all 32 console channels to Sonar, and sending Sonar's main L & R as well as a separate metronome output back to the console which in turn are routed to 3 aux input channels. I have these returns controlled by a couple of DCAs for easy access. I'm using 12 of the output buses linked as 6 stereo headphone mixes. Xcontrol also worked great. Great job, Behringer!

-Jim

 

[Tom Pittman]

re: X32 Discussion

Hi Gang.

Just wanted to report that I set up our console to work with Sonar X1 at our studio this weekend. Everything is working flawlessly. Used Firewire for the interface and ASIO driver mode with no problems at all. I'm sending all 32 console channels to Sonar, and sending Sonar's main L & R as well as a separate metronome output back to the console which in turn are routed to 3 aux input channels. I have these returns controlled by a couple of DCAs for easy access. I'm using 12 of the output buses linked as 6 stereo headphone mixes. Xcontrol also worked great. Great job, Behringer!

-Jim

Hi,

How are you configuring the XLR outputs to Stereo for 6 headphones? Must all be mono inputs? I have a Presonus 6 channel headphone amp and can run mono lines for 2 Stereo headphones. Each channel on the headphone amp has an added Stereo input also. I cannot find a cable to connect this properly i.e. 2 XLR to 1/4 Stereo plug. If there is such a cable that would allow me to connect 6 Stereo headphone sends until I can get the P-16s. I have looked but cannot find this cable. Maybe special order? I can wait for the P-16s

 

[Jeremy Honsman]

re: X32 Discussion

Hello to all, yesterday evening first exit of X32 for me, an excellent success, a total satisfaction both in term of sound and the ergonomics, I post you here 2 files USB MAIN L/R and one the other outcome of Reaper via the audio USB interface the last one is neutral, no effect just faders level :

Covercast in Reaper by Dinnisisis on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Covercast USB X32 by Dinnisisis on SoundCloud - Create, record and share your sounds for free

Wow this sounds great. Was this recorded live ? Just off the USB ?

i guess I should say hi . I'm new from Peoria il we just bought an x32 and are in te process of figuring it out . It's the first time we have messed with a digital board for the most part. (Tinkered with an ls9) there is a little bit of a learning curve while setting everything up. What's the difference in dca and a sub group ? Also any advice? I've been reading on this topic and I'm really glad I found this site you guys are very knowledgable. I did do the webinar Saturday with the behringer guys they did a good job showing the board. There is a lot to learn in two hours haha.

 

[Dave Korman]

re: X32 Discussion

Crashing and UPS, somewhat frustrating to find that the manufacturers of UPS are very sparse with their information these days. I'm was used to seeing information about type of conversion and switch-over time where appliccable in the datasheets of every UPS I looked at the last time I looked for one, but these days it seems that such information isn't deemed essential (my old Merlingerin ups with a specified switchover of less than two cycles i.e. <40 ms crashes the X32).
However, I found that my new UPS of choice, the Eaton 3s is indeed an offline model with unspecified switch-over time. I think I'm going to get it anyway and see if I can provoke the X32 into crashing, or even better, measure the time and quality of transition. If anybody have other suggestions for a low price compact UPS that they have tried (or not), please chime in.

Question for Joe Sanborn: Would it be possible to provide for an aftermarket upgrade of the rail caps to provide for somewhat longer brownout and switchover tolerance?

I have an APC Back-UPS ES700 and I've been unable to provoke a problem with the X32 after a couple of dozen attempts.