X32 Discussion

[Robert Lofgren]

Re: Faulty channel strip #5

BTW: What I am missing from the desk is a dedicated, locked Zero Out scene. Having mentioned this, the dedicated Zero Out scene could be edited to taste and locked by password, thus fulfilling the request of venue specific locked basic settings...

If you are thinking of zero-out scene as the default scene configuration before you touched the x32 then this functionality is already there.

It is called 'initialize console' and lives in the setup page. This command doesn't reset the console to factory default, clearing all user stuff. This command is nothing more than a zero-out scene and ought to be renamed to avoid any confusion it creates. Also, I'd like to see this command moved or duplicated into the scenes page since I personaly believes it belongs there.

 

[Wayne Swearingen]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

Silly question, but have you routed the card into the mixer in the ROUTING - home tab?

Well, not specifically. Though I did play with that a little last night. Currently it is set at the default under the Aux In 1-4 section which is Aux 1-4. I did change it to Card 1-4 but it didn't seem to make any difference (I dont recall if I did that after or before switching to USB. Does it matter whether its USB or Firewire connected for playback?) Also I don't quite understand the terminology if Card 1-4 is right why do I have Aux pairs 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 on the PC or does the card count pairs as one?

 

[Kari Sillanpää]

Re: Faulty channel strip #5

If you are thinking of zero-out scene as the default scene configuration before you touched the x32 then this functionality is already there.

It is called 'initialize console' and lives in the setup page.

Thanks a lot Robert!

ROTFM if there was a good one... Missed that part clearly...

I had to go back to the desk and I initialised the desk and the level difference is gone! Quick test with ipod and both channel levels on aux 5 and 6 are equal! ~:-D~:grin:

Now I only have a dead led and that I can live with! On the other hand I will try to reproduce the situation in order to understand where the quirk was and how to be able to avoid it. I was quite confident with the desk before the shows, based on user experiences and reviews on various forums. Now there is a slight miscomfort and I have to be a bit on alert. So a spare desk and a copper snake will travel with me for a while, I guess... But is is a computer, right? And computers do have hiccups...

And I do agree that the "initialize desk" should be a bit more clearly named, having missed that so galantly myself ~:-(~:sad:

Also, while I'm at it, I don't like the the wording "safe" at the parameter protection, it might be "protected" or something, you native english speakers, please come up with a better proposal...

Thanks and best regards,

/Kari

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

Well, not specifically. Though I did play with that a little last night. Currently it is set at the default under the Aux In 1-4 section which is Aux 1-4. I did change it to Card 1-4 but it didn't seem to make any difference (I dont recall if I did that after or before switching to USB. Does it matter whether its USB or Firewire connected for playback?) Also I don't quite understand the terminology if Card 1-4 is right why do I have Aux pairs 1/2 3/4 5/6 7/8 on the PC or does the card count pairs as one?

I am assuming from what you are writing that you are trying to get sound from a couple of the aux channels, and to do that, you need to route into those channels from the card instead of from the physical inputs. So you first step must be to ensure that Card 1-4 is selected as source for Aux1-4. After that, sound sent to channel 1-4 on the interface should come up on aux channels 1-4. The output from your software should go to channels named X_UF-Output01 etc. so you have to get the routing right in any software you might be using. Finally, you have to ensure that the samplerate is the same at both ends.

 

[Kevin Wright]

Re: Faulty channel strip #5

Now I only have a dead led and that I can live with! On the other hand I will try to reproduce the situation in order to understand where the quirk was and how to be able to avoid it.

Although there is no gain setting for the physical aux ins, there is a digital trim feature in the Aux layer. Might want to check that the level was not accidentally turned down for the one channel.

 

[Paul Mirtschin]

Re: Reverb through monitors

You can then send bits of it wherever it's wanted - and it's quick and easy, letting you quickly remove the reverb when they speak.

Busses and mute-groups... you do the same thing, but don't lose a channel per effect

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: Faulty channel strip #5

So coincidentally the cheapest manufacturing process involves building it right once (pretty obvious huh?).

And sometimes the best quality assurance is having users that know what they are doing ~;-)~:wink:. It is so easy to blame the equipment, whether it is a car that won't stay on the road or or a microwave that won't dry a dog without killing it. If you could eliminate the faulty user from the equation, big gains could be made. After that it is mainly a matter of keeping your employees from ever having a bad day, never let the trainee do a critical job unsupervised and trust your luck that the container that the hungover crane-operator dropped wasn't the one that contained your shipment. ....and never let the purchasers buy "equal or similar spec" parts.

 

[Wayne Swearingen]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

I am assuming from what you are writing that you are trying to get sound from a couple of the aux channels, and to do that, you need to route into those channels from the card instead of from the physical inputs. So you first step must be to ensure that Card 1-4 is selected as source for Aux1-4. After that, sound sent to channel 1-4 on the interface should come up on aux channels 1-4. The output from your software should go to channels named X_UF-Output01 etc. so you have to get the routing right in any software you might be using. Finally, you have to ensure that the samplerate is the same at both ends.

I want sound in from the PC via the USB or firewire connection. Sample rate is the same on both ends. So the board comes by default with Aux 7/8 as the USB return on the Aux In/USB Effects Return page. Am I confusing that with the on-board USB play option with a thumb drive and that's not really the PC/USB return location?

 

[Robert Lofgren]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

I want sound in from the PC via the USB or firewire connection. Sample rate is the same on both ends. So the board comes by default with Aux 7/8 as the USB return on the Aux In/USB Effects Return page. Am I confusing that with the on-board USB play option with a thumb drive and that's not really the PC/USB return location?

Yes, this is your confusion. 7/8 is defaulted to the onboard usb-stick connector

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

I want sound in from the PC via the USB or firewire connection. Sample rate is the same on both ends. So the board comes by default with Aux 7/8 as the USB return on the Aux In/USB Effects Return page. Am I confusing that with the on-board USB play option with a thumb drive and that's not really the PC/USB return location?

Yes, you are confusing the two.
Route as I've told you use aux 1&2 and send your playback to ASIO XUF output 1&2 and you should at least have a chance of getting sound through.

 

[Shane Presley]

Re: No audio from PC via USB/Firewire

Wayne, my best suggestion is check out the YouTube videos on the subject... It helped me alot before coming on here unless you are 100% stuck. I worry that the truly great minds on this forum will abandon it due to the repetitive content every time somebody opens the lid on their cardboard box. No offense

 

[Josh Tamez]

Re: New Firmware - no read-only scenes

Joe, Is there EQ coming to the FX returns anytime in the future???

Thnx...

Hi Mick,

This request has been noted and passed on to our development team.

I will see if I can get any info on this request.

We definitely hear you and all requests for X32 improvements.

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

 

[Joe Sanborn]

Re: New Firmware - no read-only scenes

Joe, Is there EQ coming to the FX returns anytime in the future???

Thnx...

Hi Josh,

I have posted a work around on the BEHRINGER forum in regards to this request.

X32 - FX Return Channels with EQ

I hope it helps!

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

 

[Joe Sanborn]

Re: New Firmware - no read-only scenes

Hi,


Maybe BEHRINGER can be the first company which installs a feater request system where customer can post feature requests or vote for one or the other request.


The company can reply to those requests with something like 'will be scheduled for the one of the next releases' or ' will be available in release x.xx' or even 'we do not want to implement this feature' or similar states.
This would be very helpfull for the community of the X32 universe.


Regards
Klaus Mock

Hi Klaus,

Yes absolutely we want to hear your feedback and feature requests.

We have a page on the BEHRINGER forum for just that:

X32 Feature Request and Issue Reporting Thread

Our develop team checks this regularly and values your input.

Best
Joe Sanborn
Manager, Channel Marketing
MUSIC Group
BEHRINGER

 

[Nick Davis]

windows 8

Went to pc world and tried out the xcontrol on a couple of touch screen windows 8 laptops.
One a Sony transformer the other an Asus (running on an rt processor).
Didn't work too well.
On the Sony the x control appeared as a small window in the bottom left corner. Probably due to
Some setting on the laptop but too small to test. On the Asus filled the screen. But the touch was a little hit and miss. But found this the case with other desktop apps.
However,would have worked better if the xcontrol window could be resized and better still if pinch and zoom was available.

 

[Dave Korman]

Re: Headphone jacks

Good thoughts on this. I was wondering if this could possibly be part of the problem, but I really didn't know. I would be interested in seeing/hearing your results when you get the scope out!

The source impedance of the headphone amps on my X32 is 37 Ohms. This means it is really not suitable for use with low impedance phones - 8 Ohm phones would reduce the available output voltage by -15dB. i.e only about 1/6 (8/45) of the amp's output voltage swing would appear across the phones.


I use Beyer DT250 80 Ohm phones, which means I get 2/3 of the available output voltage into them (I'd be better off with the 250 Ohm version!). If I were to plug in another set of the same phones, the acoustic level would be cut by about -5dB.

 

[Shy Clyman]

Re: X Control v0.91

Hey, just wondering what you have against effects in the monitors? In the digital age running anything anywhere is easy. why not make your artists happy?

Oh i dont disagree that i get asked for it by the above mentioned demographic. I just say no... Same as crack

 

[Shane Presley]

Re: X Control v0.91

Hey, just wondering what you have against effects in the monitors? In the digital age running anything anywhere is easy. why not make your artists happy?

Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. If the singer you are doing is Frank Sinatra and he asked for some rev. Then ya. But if its a step up from karaoke queen bar band chick asking. Thats a no with an explanation of why its not a good idea. Also Im not sure who your clients are, but I'm not hired by the band 99% of the time, its usually a festival or promoter and they are usually very happy with the result. The request for fx in the mons isn't very common for me its once in awhile and its normally behavior that they have learned doing their own sound. In this case the customer isn't always right.

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: Effect in monitors

Just because you CAN do it doesn't mean you SHOULD do it. If the singer you are doing is Frank Sinatra and he asked for some rev. Then ya. But if its a step up from karaoke queen bar band chick asking. Thats a no with an explanation of why its not a good idea. Also Im not sure who your clients are, but I'm not hired by the band 99% of the time, its usually a festival or promoter and they are usually very happy with the result. The request for fx in the mons isn't very common for me its once in awhile and its normally behavior that they have learned doing their own sound. In this case the customer isn't always right.

Very often, what we want and what singers want is the exact opposite. A choir want to sing in a reverberant space where they get good natural feedback from the room, ant then the choir want music in the monitors etc. etc, and we start struggling with muddy sound. We all like singing in a tiled concrete room, but you don't see a lot of studios with such a room for a vocal booth. Being a guitar player with a double-double Marshall stack and turning up to 11 to get the whole room properly excited and resonnating is satisfying and fun, but a nightmare for the poor b...... at foh.
Giving the lead vocalist a little reverb to help them feel confident often solves more problems than it creates, the confident singer will often need less gain and will be happy with less monitor because the presence of reverb gives a feeling of getting more back from the room.

 

[Darren Scaresbrook]

Re: Headphone jacks

The source impedance of the headphone amps on my X32 is 37 Ohms.

Hi Dave,

Can you tell us where you found this figure?

Darren