X32 Discussion

Re: X32 Feature Requests

Uli,
Oddly enough, the show I did tonight was a Stevie Wonder tribute!

My main feature request is still more scene memory/better scene management, flexible input/output assignment would be appreciated as well.

Regards
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Uli;
I won't badger you about it, I only mention this because its not in your list of planned features for 2.0.
I think I speak for many others when I say that 2.0 would be a perfect version to add in the security lockouts that get brought up from time to time.

The response was typically "working out the best implementation" for this, so I'm going to leave a more detailed post on the Behringer forum of how I'd like to see this protection laid out (whether that will fit everyone, who knows) but it would be a starting point.

And with that, I'll say nothing more about it here.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Hi everyone

I'm very exited about the 2.0 upgrade and it sounds like it will have a load of features added but the only thing that still didn't get attended to is the Mackie control in Sonar, I would like to see this addressed soon. :)~:-)~:smile: Sorry if this is slightly off topic :razz:

Thanx
Andre
 
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Re: X32 Feature Requests

Hi,


I love my X32. Its a great console with tons of features. And with every software update it gets even better.


I hope we can have some more details about the P16 implementation of the iQ Speaker series.

I don’t want to share the 16 monitor channels with FOH signals.


My wishes for the new Software update:


- Cymbal/Ride Icon for the LDC Scribble Strip (like the Hihat Icon)
- Smartphone Icon (L/R) for the LCD Scribble Strip
- Metronome (maybe in the oscillator section)
- Guitar/Bass tuner as a FX Plug In


Thanks a lot
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

1 - Mute groups. There needs to be an option where an individual channel mute overrides any mute group setting. In effect a channel mute needs to be a "hard mute" and a mute group a "soft mute", as they work on most analogue consoles. There also needs to be a way of seeing which mutes are due to a group and which are the individual channel mute.

2 - scene memories. 100 is not enough for most musical shows also the ability to insert a scene between two already recorded scenes, the ability to do a timed fade between scenes would be good.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

I believe it is time to look at ways to integrate several pieces of hardware in a larger system.

- Routing signals from AES50 to any output, shouldn't make a difference if you have a X32/Rack/Compact/Producer or a S16 on stage, you should be able to route to the X32/Rack/Compact/Producer.

- Remote control of any preamp, just like S16 for X32/Rack/Compact/Producer

- Ability of X32/Compact/Producer to work as a remote surface

- Routing options to build a larger system with more inputs, using distributed processing and bus summing via AES50

- Ability to control remote layers from the surfaces and all layers of a distributed system in the XControl/XiControl software.

- etc

As far as I can tell there is still no way of locking individual remote clients to a limited set of functions and channels. If I can't make sure that a person with an iPhone or iPad only gets to affect their own in-ear or monitor, I just won't let them do it. Maybe it's just me, but I think this is rather important.

I would still love to see the master fader being assignable as a DCA.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

- User and remote device management would be nice. That means that the admin can create user profiles with permissions as well as manage connected devices and their permissions. Also a password protection for the console lock would be nice.
- stereo mix busses with pans which are linked to the main stero pan of the channel.
- some sort of a automixer. Maybe this can be realized on DCA level.
- more icons or the possibilty to create new one on pc/mac and upload them via xcontrol.
- the xcontrol software can imho be visual different from the console layout. E.g. It could be possible to display all faders side by side as DAW's do it. Also would it be nice when unused channels ca be hidden. Maybe the software can also provide some sort of custom layout.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Per Søvik said:
I believe it is time to look at ways to integrate several pieces of hardware in a larger system.

- Routing signals from AES50 to any output, shouldn't make a difference if you have a X32/Rack/Compact/Producer or a S16 on stage, you should be able to route to the X32/Rack/Compact/Producer.

- Remote control of any preamp, just like S16 for X32/Rack/Compact/Producer

- Ability of X32/Compact/Producer to work as a remote surface

- Routing options to build a larger system with more inputs, using distributed processing and bus summing via AES50

- Ability to control remote layers from the surfaces and all layers of a distributed system in the XControl/XiControl software.

- etc

As far as I can tell there is still no way of locking individual remote clients to a limited set of functions and channels. If I can't make sure that a person with an iPhone or iPad only gets to affect their own in-ear or monitor, I just won't let them do it. Maybe it's just me, but I think this is rather important.

I would still love to see the master fader being assignable as a DCA.
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--Regarding the routing, being able to select any single channel as an input, instead of just blocks of eight, would be a significant improvement.

--Also, being able to route from any input to a channel on AES.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Uli Behringer said:
Dear all,

Aside from a dedicated and assignable Smaart-like analyzer, we are planning the inclusion of high-end FX “plug-ins” based on physical modeling of classic audio hardware. Our algorithm development engineers are essentially “rebuilding” classics from Neve, SSL, Urei, Pultec and others into effects that will be included on the X32.
Well-known and loved gear such as the LA-2A compressor, Lexicon reverbs and even a multi-band compressor are on our list. The FX "Plug Ins" alone represent a value worth several thousands of dollars if you would buy the actual hardware.

We are also working on some pretty amazing pitch shifting and pitch correction tools for the X32. Imagine pitch correction on every console and the power of what that will allow you to do in a live or recording environment. The best part is that these effects will be made available as part of a regular firmware update and hence will be free of charge to X32 owners!

Please leave comments here but also on our forum where we have a dedicated thread. (www.behringer.com/forum)

Uli
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As with a lot of people here, I'd like to see better security in scenes/iPad/device control.

You already are planning my main wish - an RTA. At the moment, that function is the only thing I really miss. Perhaps you could also allow us to patch in a reference mic and have a running SPL meter on the meters page as well.

Plugin-wise... A multi-band compressor would be nice. As well as opening up the plugins to other developers.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

And as to SMAART, what do you think about auto-eq function - just patch main L/R to one of onboard dual-31-band-EQ and start tuning - X32 automaticly turn oscilator on, measure the signal using connected measurement microphone, calculate and finally increase or reduce bands to flat the signal. I hope, you know what I mean.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Mateusz Ciesiółka;48276 said:
And as to SMAART, what do you think about auto-eq function - just patch main L/R to one of onboard dual-31-band-EQ and start tuning - X32 automaticly turn oscilator on, measure the signal using connected measurement microphone, calculate and finally increase or reduce bands to flat the signal. I hope, you know what I mean.
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My opinion of "auto EQ" and most "auto-anything" is that they cause at least as many problems as they might solve, and give the user a false sense of accomplishment and/or security that the process yielded a "correct" result. The folks most likely to use such a feature are also the most likely to not recognize wrong results.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Mateusz Ciesiółka;48276 said:
And as to SMAART, what do you think about auto-eq function - just patch main L/R to one of onboard dual-31-band-EQ and start tuning - X32 automaticly turn oscilator on, measure the signal using connected measurement microphone, calculate and finally increase or reduce bands to flat the signal. I hope, you know what I mean.
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Smaart - please also with PEQ ! I like not to work with GEQs. Also I miss then one fx-slot. I actually need only a Spectral Analyzer.
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Mateusz Ciesiółka;48276 said:
And as to SMAART, what do you think about auto-eq function - just patch main L/R to one of onboard dual-31-band-EQ and start tuning - X32 automaticly turn oscilator on, measure the signal using connected measurement microphone, calculate and finally increase or reduce bands to flat the signal. I hope, you know what I mean.
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Easy enough to do, but that is a 2 dimensional solution to a multidimensional problem. Automatic EQ could make the frequency response perfect for that one microphone placement, but in the real world the sound will be different at every different spot in the room. At a minimum you would need to place multiple microphones around the room, or take multiple readings using your one reference microphone.

Just look at the digitally controlled EQ offerings of a couple decades ago, to see how they addressed this, with mixed results.

JR
 
X32 OSC <--> MIDI multiple Mackie Logic Control emulation.

Hi,

I just finished a first alpha of a portable application to translate X32 OSC messages to midi. It emulates 6 Mackie Logic Control at once. So you can directly access 32 channels and 16 Aux + 1 Master via X32. The benefit: no bank switching is needed (is easy to implement). The whole mixing of a DAW project works more like in a live environment. Status is alpha and only tested with Logic Pro 9 under MAC OSX Mountain Lion. But it has a good chance to be ported to Windows as well.

I just want to inform you: if there is any public interest for testing, please answer or send a PM.

Implemented so far:

  • Auto detection as 6 Mackie Logic Control by Logic Pro 9. No setup needed.
  • Fader synchronized both ways
  • Mute synchronized both ways.
  • Solo synchronized both way.
  • Scribble scripts shows Logic Status.
  • Select synchronized both ways

Todos:

  • Pan support (just have to do it)
  • Use of the whole X32 channel strip: Gate, Expander, Compressor and Equalizer. I have to figure out how to do it via Midi Logic Control mappings.
  • Bring in some configuration which OSC message is mapped to Midi and how. Right now it is fixed coded.

This whole thing needs a lot of reverse engineering, because there is no real documentation on “logic control” or “hui” protocol. On the other side I don’t want do map 49 channels in Logic Environment. Any better ideas?

So see this stuff as a proof of concept. It is still a lot of work to do and I am a busy Software Developer working on weekends for several Gospel Choirs in my area.

My wishes for 2.0 to Behringer are:

  • Access more than 12 characters via OSC in the scribble script. Maybe 3 lines a 12 chars as in the user assign able section.
  • Access to the user assignable section scribble scripts.
  • Access to the TFT and the buttons and encoders around it. Maybe in an dedicated OSC screen.

Ciao
Gido
 
Re: X32 OSC <--> MIDI multiple Mackie Logic Control emulation.

About that new Feature Request.
I have noticed that with the firmware upgrade to 1.12 the Dual Pitch Effect went away, or I am just not looking hard enough.
Either way. Wouldn't it be cool to implement a TC-Helicon Style Harmonizer

... Dieter ...
 
Re: X32 OSC <--> MIDI multiple Mackie Logic Control emulation.

Dieter Belletz said:
About that new Feature Request.
I have noticed that with the firmware upgrade to 1.12 the Dual Pitch Effect went away, or I am just not looking hard enough.
Either way. Wouldn't it be cool to implement a TC-Helicon Style Harmonizer

... Dieter ...
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I haven't X32 right now, but seems that Pitch effects are at the pretty end of the effects list.

John Roberts said:
Easy enough to do, but that is a 2 dimensional solution to a multidimensional problem. Automatic EQ could make the frequency response perfect for that one microphone placement, but in the real world the sound will be different at every different spot in the room. At a minimum you would need to place multiple microphones around the room, or take multiple readings using your one reference microphone.

Just look at the digitally controlled EQ offerings of a couple decades ago, to see how they addressed this, with mixed results.

JR
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That was just an idea. I'm not professional sound engineer. I just imagined what can help the amateurs to make their sound systems better. But you all are right. That could really mess up.
 
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Re: V2.0 software request

Joe Villegas said:
The chance to use a S16 as a expansion, and up the XLR inputs to 48...
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I doubt that'll happen as its not just a software thing. The architecture of the x32 is simply designed around 32 channels. The only way I could see some kind of expansion, is if you were able to assign s16 inputs directly into Aux or FX channels you aren't using. If you dont need Aux's and only use reverb, then technically you could get another 14 channels. So it's close. No FX and there's your 16. Ehh who knows. :D~:-D~:grin:
 
Re: X32 Feature Requests

Tim McCulloch said:
My opinion of "auto EQ" and most "auto-anything" is that they cause at least as many problems as they might solve, and give the user a false sense of accomplishment and/or security that the process yielded a "correct" result. The folks most likely to use such a feature are also the most likely to not recognize wrong results.
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I totally agree. Any auto feedback detection unit I've ever used has been utterly useless. I'm always able to solve the issue myself with a 31 band. I do severely want the analyzer so it takes the guess work out a little.
 
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