X32 Discussion
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Re: Scribble strip gripe
This is a low cost console. iOS devices are plentiful and cheap, and as others have pointed out there are numerous reasons to attach at least one, if not a laptop to the console. There are far more pressing things I would rather see them address.
And the console may not even support it. Supporting HID (human interface devices) is a totally different kettle of fish than supporting storage (USB port on top for recording) or IO (multitrack recording out the back).
The console is an embedded special purpose device, not a general use computer. Nothing is trivial when any bitched firmware update could brick a device and incur costly shipping and return management logistics.
fundamentally I agree with you - it would be nice. However it's far from trivial so don't hold your breath. Used iPads 1s can be had for under $150. Just do it.
This is a low cost console. iOS devices are plentiful and cheap, and as others have pointed out there are numerous reasons to attach at least one, if not a laptop to the console. There are far more pressing things I would rather see them address.
And the console may not even support it. Supporting HID (human interface devices) is a totally different kettle of fish than supporting storage (USB port on top for recording) or IO (multitrack recording out the back).
The console is an embedded special purpose device, not a general use computer. Nothing is trivial when any bitched firmware update could brick a device and incur costly shipping and return management logistics.
fundamentally I agree with you - it would be nice. However it's far from trivial so don't hold your breath. Used iPads 1s can be had for under $150. Just do it.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
Unfortunately, I found that in some cases, even when I had a channel selected, hitting setup and scrolling over to the scribble strip would either place me at channel 1 for editing, or the last channel I was working on would still be in the editor, ignoring the currently selected channel. It happened often enough that it was annoying. Where it gets really confusing is that the selected channel shows up in the upper left hand corner of the screen, but that's not necessarily the channel you are editing the scribble strip for.
No, it's not the end of the world, but just a minor interface tweak would make it better.
Unfortunately, I found that in some cases, even when I had a channel selected, hitting setup and scrolling over to the scribble strip would either place me at channel 1 for editing, or the last channel I was working on would still be in the editor, ignoring the currently selected channel. It happened often enough that it was annoying. Where it gets really confusing is that the selected channel shows up in the upper left hand corner of the screen, but that's not necessarily the channel you are editing the scribble strip for.
No, it's not the end of the world, but just a minor interface tweak would make it better.
Re: X32 Producer
The producer looks SO enticing in the rack format. However, for some reason, they eliminated the scribble strips on that model. That really bummed me out when I saw that. SO close.
The producer looks SO enticing in the rack format. However, for some reason, they eliminated the scribble strips on that model. That really bummed me out when I saw that. SO close.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
Yes,this quirk has been discussed before. The best way is to hold select down while pressing setup, that will take you to the right strip.
Yes,this quirk has been discussed before. The best way is to hold select down while pressing setup, that will take you to the right strip.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
But that requires using two hands. What would I do with my beer?
But that requires using two hands. What would I do with my beer?
Re: Scribble strip gripe
I preferer to drink my beer fast while it's cold. Holding it only warms it up...
Re: Scribble strip gripe
I used the X32 last night for the first time. I did connected up a laptop mainly to keep quick access to the graphic EQs. The on-surface method of adjusting graphics is really unpleasant. But admittedly I'm spoiled after working mostly on a Venue for the past couple of years. Programing a venue and making changes on the fly is so much faster and easier. But it's also nearly 10x the price new for an SC48, so of course you get what you pay for. The X32 has a lot of bang for the buck certainly and I'll probably get one for myself for smaller stuff.
The things the X32 has going for it I wish the Venue had are 1) the dedicated iOS app that's fully featured and 2) the ability to run multiple instances of the control app with access to different parameters simultaneously.
Hopefully the stuff I find non-intualtive currently will become more second nature and faster to do with more use. And I hear your about the HID implementation. I do QA on FPGA based devices all day long and nothing is trivial.
I used the X32 last night for the first time. I did connected up a laptop mainly to keep quick access to the graphic EQs. The on-surface method of adjusting graphics is really unpleasant. But admittedly I'm spoiled after working mostly on a Venue for the past couple of years. Programing a venue and making changes on the fly is so much faster and easier. But it's also nearly 10x the price new for an SC48, so of course you get what you pay for. The X32 has a lot of bang for the buck certainly and I'll probably get one for myself for smaller stuff.
The things the X32 has going for it I wish the Venue had are 1) the dedicated iOS app that's fully featured and 2) the ability to run multiple instances of the control app with access to different parameters simultaneously.
Hopefully the stuff I find non-intualtive currently will become more second nature and faster to do with more use. And I hear your about the HID implementation. I do QA on FPGA based devices all day long and nothing is trivial.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
Keep in mind that it is unlikely that any iPad 1 that is used is going to have a battery that is in any decent shape at all. Replacing the battery in one of these units is like doing brain surgery (PITA).
If you are planning on always powering your iPad, then i guess it wouldn't be much of an issue. Otherwise ....
Keep in mind that it is unlikely that any iPad 1 that is used is going to have a battery that is in any decent shape at all. Replacing the battery in one of these units is like doing brain surgery (PITA).
If you are planning on always powering your iPad, then i guess it wouldn't be much of an issue. Otherwise ....
EQ access
Greg,
Did you use the graphics via the screen or did you flip them down onto the faders(same way the m7 works)?
I find the fader flip much easier for the graphic eq, although I tend to use the parametrics usually to get the most control.
Darren
Greg,
Did you use the graphics via the screen or did you flip them down onto the faders(same way the m7 works)?
I find the fader flip much easier for the graphic eq, although I tend to use the parametrics usually to get the most control.
Darren
Re: EQ access
Mixed a private party friday night, decided to give the iPad app a try. Sitting poolside with a beer and the iPad is probably about the best life can get working in this field IMO, and much to my surprise the app is very responsive in use.
Mixed a private party friday night, decided to give the iPad app a try. Sitting poolside with a beer and the iPad is probably about the best life can get working in this field IMO, and much to my surprise the app is very responsive in use.
Re: EQ access
I did. But having access to only 8 bands at a time is also not ideal. So I'd rather have them all available on the laptop screen although the slider resolution isn't very good using the GUI. On the SC48, you get 16 faders when using the surface for GEQ adjustment, so there are only 2 banks to toggle between. Still, I prefer doing on screen with the trackball.
I did. But having access to only 8 bands at a time is also not ideal. So I'd rather have them all available on the laptop screen although the slider resolution isn't very good using the GUI. On the SC48, you get 16 faders when using the surface for GEQ adjustment, so there are only 2 banks to toggle between. Still, I prefer doing on screen with the trackball.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
I got lucky and got a lightly used iPad 1 and the battery lasts all day! Had the X32 out front and wandered with the iPad occasionally but still don't want to mix with it unless absolutely necessary. But the app does give access to everything if you can take the time.
I got lucky and got a lightly used iPad 1 and the battery lasts all day! Had the X32 out front and wandered with the iPad occasionally but still don't want to mix with it unless absolutely necessary. But the app does give access to everything if you can take the time.
Re: new ipad app version pictures?
I was snooping around over at the "SAC Talk" forum, and found these pictures of the new x32 ipad app that is due out "soon"...
Just can't figure out how I missed them if they were posted here...
Nice to see lots of new cool stuff (like mutes!)
I was snooping around over at the "SAC Talk" forum, and found these pictures of the new x32 ipad app that is due out "soon"...
Just can't figure out how I missed them if they were posted here...
Nice to see lots of new cool stuff (like mutes!)
Re: new ipad app version pictures?
I do hope they added the analog out delay also. The reasons I have to lug the laptop around to check and tweak...
I do hope they added the analog out delay also. The reasons I have to lug the laptop around to check and tweak...
Re: Scribble strip gripe
Huh? I still have my iPad 1 and I easily get 5 to 6 hours of hard use - with at least 25% remaining. It hasn't been coddled by any stretch. And even if the battery goes bad, Apple will swap it for $100 just like the iPhone. Indeed, you'll more than likely walk out the door the same day with a refurb device. The battery would be the least of my worries. The piddly 512MB of RAM is more a concern. Unless B programmers get really lazy that shouldn't be an issue for their iPad apps.
Personally for a little more I would get a refurb iPad Mini, but the app on a full size iPad is very nice.
Huh? I still have my iPad 1 and I easily get 5 to 6 hours of hard use - with at least 25% remaining. It hasn't been coddled by any stretch. And even if the battery goes bad, Apple will swap it for $100 just like the iPhone. Indeed, you'll more than likely walk out the door the same day with a refurb device. The battery would be the least of my worries. The piddly 512MB of RAM is more a concern. Unless B programmers get really lazy that shouldn't be an issue for their iPad apps.
Personally for a little more I would get a refurb iPad Mini, but the app on a full size iPad is very nice.
Re: Scribble strip gripe
+1, I burned through about 3% battery life on my iPad 2 mixing a 1.5 hour set.
+1, I burned through about 3% battery life on my iPad 2 mixing a 1.5 hour set.