X32 Discussion

Re: X32 Live recording

could board recordings move to a separate thread or forum, please?

Why's that, i'm not out here complaining that my X32 needs to be fixed only after about 20 shows of using it and the faders are failing and all the mute buttons in the mute group needs to be replaced..

No i'm not complaining...


ROFL
 
Re: Recording with x32

Dear Guys,

Please use the following link to dowload the new X32-Edit app.
Please make sure you are at firmware 1.15 when using this new version of X32-Edit.

MUSIC Group: Temporary Downloads Page

New Features:
• X32-Edit 1.20 can be extensively remote controlled via Mackie Control Universal or compatible
control surfaces
• Consequently, the console directly controlled by X32-Edit 1.20 can also be remote controlled
from another X32 surface by engaging its DAW Remote function
• USB Recorder tracklist can now be displayed remotely, and the general performance has been
improved

Joe, I read the MCU layout, but how is the layout on Behringer's BCF2000 ?
Maybe we get an update / layout for the BCF2000 ?

Thank you and best regards
 
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Re: Recording with x32

Is there a possibility to transfer / synchronise the preset library to X32-Edit? At this moment the library on my PC is different than on my X32. It's also not possible to sort the library isn't?
 
Re: X32-Edit and 15" touchscreen

edit :
Hiding the Mac's menubar in X32-Edit app doesn't help, the X32-Edit window can't be draged higher on the screen...
I may try SwitchRes to expand the touchscreen's resolution...
edit2 :

Hmhh...
Klaus

On windows (7 & touchscreen 8) I have the task bar on the side to overcome this.
To repeat my earlier posts re x-control now x-edit - a resizeabe screen and the ability to select different "views" would make this a much more versatile tool especially for the core and rack.
 
Re: Recording with x32

Dear Guys,

Please use the following link to dowload the new X32-Edit app.
Please make sure you are at firmware 1.15 when using this new version of X32-Edit.

MUSIC Group: Temporary Downloads Page

New Features:
• X32-Edit 1.20 can be extensively remote controlled via Mackie Control Universal or compatible
control surfaces
• Consequently, the console directly controlled by X32-Edit 1.20 can also be remote controlled
from another X32 surface by engaging its DAW Remote function
• USB Recorder tracklist can now be displayed remotely, and the general performance has been
improved

I'm trying out the v 1.2 X32-Edit...Mac 10.6.8 - and a X32.
The BCF2000 bank / channel scrolls are not reflected in the X32-Edit app, and vice versa
maybe I'm doing something wrong ?
Would be nice to have a pref setting for the midi feedback - from / to - the BCF2000 ( or MCU ) so the X32-Edit app can do one thing ( be a big touchscreen ) and the BCF2000 can handle the mixing of different channels ( VCAs ? )
( thinking the 'core' way )
Best

Klaus
 
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X32 Rack

Looks like we are getting close to the end of the wait, Thomann has availability at the end of next week, so hopefully I will have mine shipped next Friday and be ready for fun the next week. :D~:-D~:grin:

That is of course too late for the start of season performance on Saturday 21st where the Rack would have been perfect since it is one of those events where setting up a FOH is really impractical as there is no way to run a flimsy CAT-cable safely without an ample supply of cable protectors :cry:

Edit: So now I have to go out and get some more microphones so I can run 64 channels at the X-mas show :twisted:
 
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Re: X32 Live recording

Why's that, i'm not out here complaining that my X32 needs to be fixed only after about 20 shows of using it and the faders are failing and all the mute buttons in the mute group needs to be replaced..

No i'm not complaining...


ROFL

because board recordings tell very little about specifically the mixer and most of the posts look like spam. Soundcloud and youtube are wonderful platforms for sharing music, but failures after 20 gigs are more interesting given the purpose of this forum.

Alternatively, lets all post every recording we've made. I'm sure these forums will be useful after that:roll:
 
Re: X32 Live recording

Alternatively, lets all post every recording we've made. I'm sure these forums will be useful after that:roll:

Go right ahead, you can do it all in one post so we don't get pages upon pages of the stuff.

But is it really that hard to skip a post you are not interested in, are you compulsively bound to read every message and click every link?
 
Re: X32 Rack

Looks like we are getting close to the end of the wait, Thomann has availability at the end of next week, so hopefully I will have mine shipped next Friday and be ready for fun the next week. :D~:-D~:grin:
That sounds about right. The nordic distributor said they expected them before the end of this month. I assume our racks are on the same cargo ship...
 
Re: Recording with x32

Dear Guys,

Please use the following link to dowload the new X32-Edit app.
Please make sure you are at firmware 1.15 when using this new version of X32-Edit.

MUSIC Group: Temporary Downloads Page
Hi probably been answered but can I update to v1.15 on the x32 without updating the xuf card and the xuf drivers on the pc ? I use usb for recording and up to now pretty Stable.
presume I can get to v1.15 from the above link
 
Re: strange or not strange!

I have installed Tracktion 4 on my laptop and configured it. I have connected my laptop to my X32 using USB and configured the X32 to talk with my laptop. Then I downloaded a couple of sample multi-track files and loaded them into Tracktion. I am able to successfully play them into the board and listen with headphones. But my question is: I don't know which parameters can be changed and which cannot. For instance, if I turn a gain knob while playing back a song, the volume changes. But am I really changing the input gain or just using that knob like a fader? I thought I remembered reading somewhere that when you are sending input in through the X-UF card, you cannot change input gains. Does that mean that your input gain levels have to be correct for the X32 before you play them in? I can't figure out where I can read more about this. I want to use this method to do virtual sound checks with my band. I know I will need multi-track recordings of the band taken off the X32 but I don't understand what I can mix when playing it back. Is it everything except head amp levels?
I would suggest that you take it in stages.
- Record your band during the next gig, making sure that the gain structure is consistent (gain will influence the level of recording, and the mix playback - not going into details here), so that you have decent level of recording on Tracktion.
Keep an eye on the monitored levels (on Tracktion PC screen armed tracks) during sound check before the gig so that your inputs are balanced and not clipping. Apply gain +/- if the recording level is too low/too high. This is the only channel setting that will influence the recording. Apply THEN any X32 processing/fading/bussing (that will NOT be recorded) for the venue mix.
- if you change the gain during the recording, the recording level WILL be changing. If you mute the channel, it will mute the recording (if I remember well but not 100% sure). Any other setting (including faders, eq, comp, gate, effects, etc...) will be only for the audience and not applied to the recording.
- remember to save settings and scenes on the X32.
- if you replay the recording through the same channels and channels settings (once switching the inputs from analog to card/pc input) you should have a consistent output.

Then you would be ready to go for virtual sound check. Anyway virtual soundcheck, I discovered, is an illusion, applicable only to large venues (or open air where the stage if far away) or to music genres that have very low direct sound pressure from stage on the audience.
Once you add the direct stage to audience (and stage to mixing position) sound, the sound from the wedges, your nice virtual sound check would be to be recalibrated anyway. At least this is my experience in pretty much any smaller/mid size venue.

Which leads me into my next question: I am using a USB interface between my X32 and laptop because my laptop does not have a firewire interface. However, I have a firewire interface card (Express card for my laptop). Any advantage to using that over a regular USB interface? I have the Behringer ASIO support loaded on my laptop. But I am not clear what the different adjustments on the X-UF USB control panel are. Can someone either point me to where there's more info I can read besides what's in the manual, which does not really explain how or why to adjust anything, or else explain to me the theory of adjusting those parameters? I know a little: I know you don't want dropouts so if get them you have to raise some values until they go away. But when do you raise the different ones on the control panel?

On paper there's no difference. 400Mbps USB 2 vs. 400 Mbps FW. In reality you can find on several sources that USB relies much more on cpu cycles for low level I/O operations, while FW delegates to the chipset. So it's a matter of sustained operation. The PC has to read up to 32 channels bit streams, manage I/O and write the files to disk (ongoing for some hours).
If you have a recent PC, it shouldn't be a problem for the CPU. If your PC is older, using FW will free up some cpu cycles. I would suggest that you run tests with the expected number of channels to be tracked and verify on field or rehersal if the sustained recording is ok or if you have glitches. I would suggest that you listen then to the recording carefully to find any bad spots (yes, time consuming).
I can't help with ASIO settings, sorry.
cheers
 
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Re: Recording with x32

Hi probably been answered but can I update to v1.15 on the x32 without updating the xuf card and the xuf drivers on the pc ? I use usb for recording and up to now pretty Stable.
presume I can get to v1.15 from the above link

Dear Nick,
You can update to 1.15 without updating your XUF card / drivers. The update is not at the link above. This direct link to the download just worked for me: http://www.behringerdownload.de/X32/X32_Firmware_1.15.zip

Hope it helps!
 
Re: X32 Live recording

Ok Here's a recording done over the labor day weekend from a band called Streamline really good acoustic band..

Hope ya like.. :)

https://soundcloud.com/livemusic-5/streamline-next-to-me

Randy..

another good job Randy... My recording mixes don't sound very good for some reason. It sounds great in the room, but the recordings to the stick are all out of whack... the room probably has a lot to do with it. If I were to mix to headphones or to studio monitors, it might turn out a little different, but we have apretty wild room...
 
Re: X32 Live recording

another good job Randy... My recording mixes don't sound very good for some reason. It sounds great in the room, but the recordings to the stick are all out of whack... the room probably has a lot to do with it. If I were to mix to headphones or to studio monitors, it might turn out a little different, but we have apretty wild room...


Hello

I have had the same problem - and me thinks it is because of the loudness of the band - in USB-stick recording vocals are too loud, drums and guitars are too quiet, bass is about right - so I thought, that putting a pair of boundary mics on the floor - one on both sides of drums well in front of amps somewhere no-one steps on them - and then mix it into pa-signal perhaps using matrix - would yield some semidescent result - anybody with experience please comment.

Time to hit the hay ...