Re: Interface cards - Airport Extreme
iPad shoulder harness.
Wear your iPad or other tablet wherever you go, with GoPad
iPad shoulder harness.
Wear your iPad or other tablet wherever you go, with GoPad
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Re: Interface cards - Airport Extreme
Hello
At 89,- USD plus shipping + tax - likely ending at 150,-€ I'll twist plenty of wire to produce my own... o.k. have to admit, that GoPad may be used in more ways than my "harmonica-extended" but I really only need support, when doing gigs with multiple bands - carrying iPad around for an hour or so is no problem, but when you have a night with six bands - soundchecks and the whole schabang - then your wrist will cry for a week...
As it looks now - twice a year - rest is one or two bands per night.
Hello
At 89,- USD plus shipping + tax - likely ending at 150,-€ I'll twist plenty of wire to produce my own... o.k. have to admit, that GoPad may be used in more ways than my "harmonica-extended" but I really only need support, when doing gigs with multiple bands - carrying iPad around for an hour or so is no problem, but when you have a night with six bands - soundchecks and the whole schabang - then your wrist will cry for a week...
As it looks now - twice a year - rest is one or two bands per night.
iPad Holder
I use the Sleeve 360 and it works nicely.
Sleeve 360 | The Wearable iPad? Case
There are other similar products.
I use the Sleeve 360 and it works nicely.
Sleeve 360 | The Wearable iPad? Case
There are other similar products.
Re: airport express & x32
I've had nothing but trouble trying to use Apple routers for any audio consoles. I've had trouble with LS9's, it didn't work at all with my X32, and it works ok on a Mackie DL1608 but cuts out often. They're just not cut out for the task, and perform far worse than much cheaper options.
I bought a cheap D-Link N300 and I've had fantastic performance on every console I've plugged it into.
Also, if you're familiar with internet sharing via wifi on a mac laptop, you can get away without using a router. It's not as stable as a router, but it works, and it's a great backup in case your router breaks.
I've had nothing but trouble trying to use Apple routers for any audio consoles. I've had trouble with LS9's, it didn't work at all with my X32, and it works ok on a Mackie DL1608 but cuts out often. They're just not cut out for the task, and perform far worse than much cheaper options.
I bought a cheap D-Link N300 and I've had fantastic performance on every console I've plugged it into.
Also, if you're familiar with internet sharing via wifi on a mac laptop, you can get away without using a router. It's not as stable as a router, but it works, and it's a great backup in case your router breaks.
Standalone Snake
I read the entire S16 manual for the first time last weekend, I had no idea the S16 can function as a standalone snake! Hooray added value.
@Behringer: Is it possible to use a BCR2000 to remotely control just the preamps in standalone mode, and/or with an X32? Being able to easily control the preamps with an X32 (especially the core) would make it a pretty fierce live multitrack system. W/ live recording I'm definitely riding the preamps, not the faders.
I read the entire S16 manual for the first time last weekend, I had no idea the S16 can function as a standalone snake! Hooray added value.
@Behringer: Is it possible to use a BCR2000 to remotely control just the preamps in standalone mode, and/or with an X32? Being able to easily control the preamps with an X32 (especially the core) would make it a pretty fierce live multitrack system. W/ live recording I'm definitely riding the preamps, not the faders.
Re: airport express & x32
See this is exactly what I don't want to have to do.. wait for my iPad to sleep and wait 30 minutes for it to connect. When I connect my router to my X32, I want to be able to achieve an instantaneous connection. Mine is the newest one, small square with the rounded corners..
Thanks for the advice guys, glad I'm not the only one who has issues.. I think the airport express is going to get swapped with my home router, a Linksys E4200. I originally wanted the airport express because it is so small but functionality is more important than size.
See this is exactly what I don't want to have to do.. wait for my iPad to sleep and wait 30 minutes for it to connect. When I connect my router to my X32, I want to be able to achieve an instantaneous connection. Mine is the newest one, small square with the rounded corners..
Thanks for the advice guys, glad I'm not the only one who has issues.. I think the airport express is going to get swapped with my home router, a Linksys E4200. I originally wanted the airport express because it is so small but functionality is more important than size.
Re: Interface cards - Airport Extreme
...what with all the problems that the Behringer site is having, I wonder if they would intentionally delay the release...otherwise you'd have an influx of customer service calls...
Thomann has changed the date to 25th. Hooray
...what with all the problems that the Behringer site is having, I wonder if they would intentionally delay the release...otherwise you'd have an influx of customer service calls...
Re: iPads
Someone probably fired up a personal hotspot on their phone right on top of the channel you were using :x~:-x~
Which is the real problem with wirless - you have no control over how others use the spectrum around you. It's always been a problem with wireless in general - interference with wireless mic's and stuff, but with wifi and portable cellular based hotspots the problem is getting ridiculous. One thing I would HIGHLY encourage everyone to do is in whatever router you are using, get up into the 5GHz band and if possible just turn the 2 GHz off entirely. With the Apple routers, you can set up a separate SSID for the 5 GHz band separate from the 2 GHz bands. At a minimum do that - it will force your clients like the iPads to use the 5GHz band, which is less crowded.
And I just checked, even my iPad 1 see's my 5GHz network. If they release a new iPad that supports the new ac standard, it might be worth jumping on that just to, again, get to less crowded bands.
It's too bad for uses like you had that there isn't an Ethernet dongle option to just eliminate wireless from the equation when you really don't need it.
EDIT: Good article talking about setting up a dedicated 5GHz network with an Airport: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/548
Someone probably fired up a personal hotspot on their phone right on top of the channel you were using :x~:-x~
Which is the real problem with wirless - you have no control over how others use the spectrum around you. It's always been a problem with wireless in general - interference with wireless mic's and stuff, but with wifi and portable cellular based hotspots the problem is getting ridiculous. One thing I would HIGHLY encourage everyone to do is in whatever router you are using, get up into the 5GHz band and if possible just turn the 2 GHz off entirely. With the Apple routers, you can set up a separate SSID for the 5 GHz band separate from the 2 GHz bands. At a minimum do that - it will force your clients like the iPads to use the 5GHz band, which is less crowded.
And I just checked, even my iPad 1 see's my 5GHz network. If they release a new iPad that supports the new ac standard, it might be worth jumping on that just to, again, get to less crowded bands.
It's too bad for uses like you had that there isn't an Ethernet dongle option to just eliminate wireless from the equation when you really don't need it.
EDIT: Good article talking about setting up a dedicated 5GHz network with an Airport: http://www.macinstruct.com/node/548
Re: Interface cards - Airport Extreme
If you aren't careful more routers will make things worse - overlap is very, very bad! You would manually have to set them to 1, 6 and 11 to get non-overlapping channels and you would also have to hope no one around you was using any of those bands either. Your much better off doing a quick site survey to see which of those three channels is the least busy, and then hope some idiot with a personal wifi hotspot doesn't pop up later and hog the channel you picked
the 802.11ac stuff has some auto-channel hopping technology that will greatly help with all this crap - if you find yourself constantly running into channel interference stuff, pray that Apple and Android manufacturers embrace ac in portable devices quickly. Apple is one of the few shipping an ac access point too - but that should be changing now that ac radio chipsets are becoming more common.
More on channel overlap: 802.11b WiFi Frequency Channels
If you aren't careful more routers will make things worse - overlap is very, very bad! You would manually have to set them to 1, 6 and 11 to get non-overlapping channels and you would also have to hope no one around you was using any of those bands either. Your much better off doing a quick site survey to see which of those three channels is the least busy, and then hope some idiot with a personal wifi hotspot doesn't pop up later and hog the channel you picked
the 802.11ac stuff has some auto-channel hopping technology that will greatly help with all this crap - if you find yourself constantly running into channel interference stuff, pray that Apple and Android manufacturers embrace ac in portable devices quickly. Apple is one of the few shipping an ac access point too - but that should be changing now that ac radio chipsets are becoming more common.
More on channel overlap: 802.11b WiFi Frequency Channels
Re: airport express & x32
Follow the link I provided in an earlier post and set up a dedicated SSID for 5GHz and have your iPads use that. I'd wager that fixes it. Also make sure your console, the Airport and iPads all have static IP addresses, each device being unique. The gateway for the console and iPads should always be the router. Yes, it shouldn't really matter on an isolated network but some TCIP/IP stacks (say, Windows!) are wonky if you don't have a gateway in there.
Follow the link I provided in an earlier post and set up a dedicated SSID for 5GHz and have your iPads use that. I'd wager that fixes it. Also make sure your console, the Airport and iPads all have static IP addresses, each device being unique. The gateway for the console and iPads should always be the router. Yes, it shouldn't really matter on an isolated network but some TCIP/IP stacks (say, Windows!) are wonky if you don't have a gateway in there.
Re: airport express & x32
I Just use a very simple conceptronics wifi router. I first power the x32 and then the router. Works allways... As long as i have a line of sight. Whenever i lose control on the ipad i go to the settings chose the right wifi access and connect. This does take no minute. :roll:
I Just use a very simple conceptronics wifi router. I first power the x32 and then the router. Works allways... As long as i have a line of sight. Whenever i lose control on the ipad i go to the settings chose the right wifi access and connect. This does take no minute. :roll:
Re: back to basics- compressor "hold" parameter
this wee little post perhaps got lost within the discussions about ipads/interface cards/routers and the rack!
this wee little post perhaps got lost within the discussions about ipads/interface cards/routers and the rack!
Using one X32 to remote another?
Someone wrote a program for this, I just can't seem to find any reference to it.
Anyone with a better memory than mine (doesn't take much)?
Someone wrote a program for this, I just can't seem to find any reference to it.
Anyone with a better memory than mine (doesn't take much)?
Aux In Monitoring - stange behaviour!!!!!?
OK before I start I am still on V1.13 so this may have been fixed - but haven't got release notes for V.15
Feeding a pair of aux in's with output from a MP3 player.
Soloing the channels -
If set ch monitor to post fader can still monitor channels with the faders all the way down - can also hear the source with the mute on for the aux channels
Is this normal do the aux channels ignore the AFL on off setting?
(I have also had some instances where playing through the aux simply dies and have had to reboot the desk to get it back - but find it hard to recreate)
Ta
Nick
OK before I start I am still on V1.13 so this may have been fixed - but haven't got release notes for V.15
Feeding a pair of aux in's with output from a MP3 player.
Soloing the channels -
If set ch monitor to post fader can still monitor channels with the faders all the way down - can also hear the source with the mute on for the aux channels
Is this normal do the aux channels ignore the AFL on off setting?
(I have also had some instances where playing through the aux simply dies and have had to reboot the desk to get it back - but find it hard to recreate)
Ta
Nick
Re: Using one X32 to remote another?
X32 Sync Link
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zVWn7B1J5QE&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DzVWn7B1J5QE
X32 Sync Link
Re: back to basics- compressor "hold" parameter
Attack tells you how fast the gate opens after you pass the threshold, a very fast attack, particularly if the threshold is high, will give you a "click".
Hold is the time the gate "holds" after the level drops below the threshold, when used as noise gate on vocals this should be reasonably long.
Release is how fast the gate closes after the hold period, if it is long, it is like a fadeout.
You can use the gate for sound shaping (typically with quite high thresholds) or more subtly for keeping unused sources silent (with lower thresholds)
Attack tells you how fast the gate opens after you pass the threshold, a very fast attack, particularly if the threshold is high, will give you a "click".
Hold is the time the gate "holds" after the level drops below the threshold, when used as noise gate on vocals this should be reasonably long.
Release is how fast the gate closes after the hold period, if it is long, it is like a fadeout.
You can use the gate for sound shaping (typically with quite high thresholds) or more subtly for keeping unused sources silent (with lower thresholds)
Re: back to basics- compressor "hold" parameter
Thanks per - sort of understand gates - it was the hold park on the compressor was seeking additional clarification about but presume it works similar to the hold on a gate - just not a common feature on some comps.
Re: back to basics- compressor "hold" parameter
Yes, with increasing level, the comp will go tighter according to attack time and slope. When level decreases, the hold and release will come into play. With no hold at all and fast attack and release, all dynamics will disappear.
Yes, with increasing level, the comp will go tighter according to attack time and slope. When level decreases, the hold and release will come into play. With no hold at all and fast attack and release, all dynamics will disappear.
Re: iPad Holder
I have a similar unit that also has a hook attachment that wraps around your hand. Got it at TJ Maxx for $10.
I have a similar unit that also has a hook attachment that wraps around your hand. Got it at TJ Maxx for $10.
Consolidated view, or printout, showing overall console configuration? Manual?
My X32 arrived yesterday. Spent a few hours familiarizing myself with screens etc.... In a number of way's the desk feels similar to the Allen & Heath iLive system (been working with a local church setting up/tuning a 60x32 iLive system). And, like the iLive, it has one shortcoming. There's no single place where you can view or print something that gives a big picture overview of the desk's current configuration (ie....things like....what source's are assigned to each input strip, which strips are assigned to which groups, which strips are controlled by which DCA's, the routing of FX in's and out's etc....).
Like the iLive, the desk takes an approach along the lines of having a bucket of physical and logical input's, a bucket of fader strips (input and mix buss) and a bucket of output's. These elements can be used like an erector set to build/configure the system as desired. Hugely flexible but because there is no fixed structure to the desk there's no way to walk up to it and have any idea what's going where. I've found this to be a real frustration with the iLive system. You can figure these things out but you have to do it through brute force (flogging through innumerable screens etc...).
There is a site, out of Germany I think, where you can upload an iLive show file (iLive viewer I think it's called) and their system will use it to generate a PDF doc that consolidates most of the routing config and lay's it out on paper so to speak. It doesn't work well with expander boxes and, in some area's still isn't entirely clear, but it's better than nothing.
This could be VERY helpful with the X32 in that you would have a way to get a big picture view of the routing and fairly easily see any routing or config errors without having to chase down each routing path by walking through the individual screens/strips etc....
Wondering if there's something similar for the X32? If there isn't something like this "in the box", is there some way to do this using the XControl/X32 edit software? From a PC, running the editor software, it would seem that it should be pretty easy to do this.
Having spent several hours last night looking over the desk with a pretty hard eye I must admit that, so far, I'm pretty impressed. Fit and finish looks to be quite good. The controls feel nice, nothing loose or crappy feeling, screen layout's are pretty consistent and, once you get the feel of the layout, it's pretty intuitive. The packing was quite good too.
Lastly, Does anyone know where a full PDF manual can be found? I've looked through all the downloads on the x32 page/Berhinger site. Saw the engineers manual etc... but I'm looking for something that gives more detailed explanation of many of the individual parameters on the different pages.
****Edit**** nevermind, found the users manual ( http://www.behringer.com/assets/X32_M_EN.pdf ). Odd that it's not on the X32 Documentation/Downloads page.
Thanks in advance!
Karl
My X32 arrived yesterday. Spent a few hours familiarizing myself with screens etc.... In a number of way's the desk feels similar to the Allen & Heath iLive system (been working with a local church setting up/tuning a 60x32 iLive system). And, like the iLive, it has one shortcoming. There's no single place where you can view or print something that gives a big picture overview of the desk's current configuration (ie....things like....what source's are assigned to each input strip, which strips are assigned to which groups, which strips are controlled by which DCA's, the routing of FX in's and out's etc....).
Like the iLive, the desk takes an approach along the lines of having a bucket of physical and logical input's, a bucket of fader strips (input and mix buss) and a bucket of output's. These elements can be used like an erector set to build/configure the system as desired. Hugely flexible but because there is no fixed structure to the desk there's no way to walk up to it and have any idea what's going where. I've found this to be a real frustration with the iLive system. You can figure these things out but you have to do it through brute force (flogging through innumerable screens etc...).
There is a site, out of Germany I think, where you can upload an iLive show file (iLive viewer I think it's called) and their system will use it to generate a PDF doc that consolidates most of the routing config and lay's it out on paper so to speak. It doesn't work well with expander boxes and, in some area's still isn't entirely clear, but it's better than nothing.
This could be VERY helpful with the X32 in that you would have a way to get a big picture view of the routing and fairly easily see any routing or config errors without having to chase down each routing path by walking through the individual screens/strips etc....
Wondering if there's something similar for the X32? If there isn't something like this "in the box", is there some way to do this using the XControl/X32 edit software? From a PC, running the editor software, it would seem that it should be pretty easy to do this.
Having spent several hours last night looking over the desk with a pretty hard eye I must admit that, so far, I'm pretty impressed. Fit and finish looks to be quite good. The controls feel nice, nothing loose or crappy feeling, screen layout's are pretty consistent and, once you get the feel of the layout, it's pretty intuitive. The packing was quite good too.
Lastly, Does anyone know where a full PDF manual can be found? I've looked through all the downloads on the x32 page/Berhinger site. Saw the engineers manual etc... but I'm looking for something that gives more detailed explanation of many of the individual parameters on the different pages.
****Edit**** nevermind, found the users manual ( http://www.behringer.com/assets/X32_M_EN.pdf ). Odd that it's not on the X32 Documentation/Downloads page.
Thanks in advance!
Karl
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