Can anyone give a real world comparison. Looking for a small hifi box for club gigs and small outdoor shows. I like 3 way boxes in general so wondering about the differences.
John,
I'm just a guy, but I like everything about the SM80 better than the SM60. The SM80 is a tiny bit forward in the upper midrange for my taste, but overall its one of the best sounding Danley boxes, and I think Ivan should be proud of it.
Just one data point.
As with most things-there are advantages and disadvantages to everything. So here are a few personal comments/thoughtsCan anyone give a real world comparison. Looking for a small hifi box for club gigs and small outdoor shows. I like 3 way boxes in general so wondering about the differences.
With enough "subbage" the Sm80 will "do" quite a large crowd. Next Saturday (sept 7th) there will be a free event in the Dallas/ft worth area (not sure where) where the band WAR (low rider etc) will be playing for several thousand people (i think that is the expected turnout). The PA will be a single SM80 per side and a single BC415 per side outside.
+1Please make a video of this event. If what you say is true I am sold.
I won't be there. The production guy is the only one I know. I will ask-but there are often some issues with somebody who is working the show doing video and posting it unless authorized by the artist.Please make a video of this event. If what you say is true I am sold.
Can anyone give a real world comparison. Looking for a small hifi box for club gigs and small outdoor shows. I like 3 way boxes in general so wondering about the differences.
As with most things-there are advantages and disadvantages to everything. So here are a few personal comments/thoughts
There are the obvious differences-price-size-coverage pattern etc.
The SM80 gets quite a bit louder than the SM60F. I honestly feel the specs on the SM80 are a bit on the conservative side-and plan on taking a "second look" at power-max output etc.
As far as a "single speaker source" the SM60F goes quite a bit lower than the Sm80 (based on midband sensitivity) and the SM60F has an extended HF response (due to the smaller HF driver).
So to me I would choose the SM60F as more "hifi" or full range. Of course the SM80 was designed to be used with a sub-so the low freq does not go as low.
The Sm80 in in a sealed box-so the LF rolloff is not as steep as a ported box.
If you want to "extend" the LF of the SM80 a bit you can add a boost down around 100hz. This is not an issue untill you get really loud-for a couple of reasons.
Since it is a sealed box, the impedance down low get real high-so very little power is going to the driver (so no problem there). Also the sealed box helps to prevent overexcursion. The cabinet will "tell you" when it has had enough. It will "bark" at you. So simply turn the boost down.
To me-the first question is "how loud" does the speaker need to go?" and go from there.
With enough "subbage" the Sm80 will "do" quite a large crowd. Next Saturday (sept 7th) there will be a free event in the Dallas/ft worth area (not sure where) where the band WAR (low rider etc) will be playing for several thousand people (i think that is the expected turnout). The PA will be a single SM80 per side and a single BC415 per side outside.
If anybody is interested-I will find out where-times etc
PS-if money is an issue-there is a "different version" of the Sm80 that is less money. It is the fully weatherized (heavy duty thermo molded cabinet) OS80. It is larger-but weighs less and goes lower in freq-due to the larger internal volume-so it is more of a "stand alone" cabinet.
Can the OS80 yoke be modified for installing on a speaker stand?
Yes, just modded one yesterday during a demo. I would use the K&M 19580 for the larger support area.
Can anyone give a real world comparison. Looking for a small hifi box for club gigs and small outdoor shows. I like 3 way boxes in general so wondering about the differences.
Yes, just modded one yesterday during a demo. I would use the K&M 19580 for the larger support area.
Hi Ivan,
How does the wood SM80 compare to the poly composite OS80? I see the spec sheet rates the OS80 1db lower sensitivity.
Obviously the OS80 goes a little lower, how about sound quality?
Can the OS80 yoke be modified for installing on a speaker stand?
Thanks and good health, Weogo
OOPS-thanks for the type catch.The continuous dB SPL figure is impressive, but the program figure would probably drown-out an atomic bomb! :razz:
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That would be the TH118----------------------------. Would be nice to have some bass bins that one guy could handle...if they came up with a scalable version of the BC that broke into 4, I might consider it, LOL.
When you say "=" I assume it is maximum output? or price or size or weight or SPL/dollar or something else?Ivy Everyone being familiar with th118. May question is:
How many th118 = 1 BC412 and how many th118 = BC415?
The short answer please.