X32 Discussion

[Dave Korman]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

Sounds like a mute groups function.
1 dca for the entire vocals, with different mute groups for who is on stage.
Or scene building.

mute groups wont work as if you have a channel in more than one mute group and any of those groups is muted the channel is muted.

Scene buliding would work if there was time but generally there isn't andthe X32 scene management is not really usable without the ability to insert scenes, and ideally to do that with a single button press to record a new scene immediately after the currently loaded scene autmatically allocating it a point cue number. need many more than 100 scenes too, as each "scene" on te stage will require more than one set of mics to be open at different times.

 

[Per Søvik]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

mute groups wont work as if you have a channel in more than one mute group and any of those groups is muted the channel is muted.

If there are few enough vocal group configurations, set up yor mute groups and have only one activated at a time.

Scene buliding would work if there was time but generally there isn't andthe X32 scene management is not really usable without the ability to insert scenes, and ideally to do that with a single button press to record a new scene immediately after the currently loaded scene autmatically allocating it a point cue number. need many more than 100 scenes too, as each "scene" on te stage will require more than one set of mics to be open at different times.

Inserting scenes is an option since a couple of upgrades ago.
If sequential scenes are not practical, you can allways set up a set of scenes, with one for each unique configuration on stage, recalling only the parameters and channels you want to change, and assign the scenes to user definable buttons so you can quickly navigate between the scenes.

 

[Antoon van den Oetelaar]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

I know which group of actors are on stage at any given time and only their DCA needs to be up - all the others will be down.

You don't have anything pre fader send? (So mute groups is the only real solution)

How did you do this in the past?

Maybe for such a special request:
If you can output the OSC of the dca faders, output them to a laptop. Make a conversion / patch utility, and send the result as OSC back to the input faders. Then you can do what you want.
I think of gido's sort of util...

 

[Anthony Warren]

Hi,
I know feature requests are being gathered for the 2.0 release but I was wondering if anyone knows of a roadmap showing what features will be added in future releases?

I am researching the X32 as a candidate for our church, and one feature that I think would help us greatly would be some sort of user permissions so that system-type functions could be limited somehow to prevent adjustment.
I guess what would help at this stage, is just to know if this a committed feature request or not.

Thanks,
Anthony

 

[Dave Korman]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

If there are few enough vocal group configurations, set up yor mute groups and have only one activated at a time.

Yes I know - not enough mute groups for that.

Inserting scenes is an option since a couple of upgrades ago.
.

Hmm - I'm on 1.11 and I've not noticed that - must have missed it, will have to check/

(Edit - found it)

In the past on an analogue board I've just had to juggle 24 faders and hope that the actor on the one I forgot to turn down doesn't head for the toilet (or worse) as soon as he gets off stage!

 

[Chris Clark]

Re: X32 Discussion

Hi,
I am researching the X32 as a candidate for our church, and one feature that I think would help us greatly would be some sort of user permissions so that system-type functions could be limited somehow to prevent adjustment.

This is something many of us have been waiting on (myself included) and has been asked many times (both in this thread and in the Feature Request thread at Behringer's forums, and probably other places). Last news was that it is in the works, whether it will be in 2.0 or farther down the line is still to be seen, last status I had seen on it from R&D is that they're working out the best way to implement it.

As far as a long term roadmap, I think Behringer is figuring out their next turns as they go. I see this was your first post but you've been a member since August, so if you've been reading you've no doubt noticed that the previous firmware updates have been largely comprised of bug fixes and suggestions which were brought up here and other forums, "by the people" as it were. I think now it seems that the major teething problem bugs have been by-and-large worked out of the system, yes there's still some here and there but not nearly as many show stoppers as there were so I think you'll definitely see the updates slow down for one thing (unless some major bug presents itself with the new models), but they'll also start focusing more on added features as opposed to the bug fixes that were the major focus up to now.

 

[Anthony Warren]

Re: X32 Discussion

Thanks Chris.

Yes, I have been reading this thread - in fact I've been waiting till I'd caught up with every message before posting!! (It's taken a lot of reading so am aware that the feature has been highlighted previously.
The piece for me that's missing is some kind of response from Behringer to say -"yes, it will appear at some point in the future". The timing of when it arrives is not so much of an issue, as I would be able to justify the choice of the X32 more easily if I knew that it was a committed development feature.

 

[Sietse Lolkema]

Re: X32 Discussion

Please help me guys. I have a little problem with reaper. When I try to record something its working great. I record al the 32 channel inputs. But when I try to send the channels back to the x32 I only get signal on channel 1 and 2. All channels are somehow mixed to these channels. What am I doing wrong?

Greetz,
Sietse

p.s. Still loving my x32.

 

[Klaus Mock]

Re: X32 Discussion

All channels are somehow mixed to these channels. What am I doing wrong?

Check the routing of your tracks in reaper. Usually reaper routes th master to the first two channels. Remove this routing and add routings for all tracks to the mono channes of the x32.

 

[Sietse Lolkema]

Re: X32 Discussion

Check the routing of your tracks in reaper. Usually reaper routes th master to the first two channels. Remove this routing and add routings for all tracks to the mono channes of the x32.

Where do I need to do that? Is that in the preference page? Or is that in the I/O page per channel?

 

[Sietse Lolkema]

Re: X32 Discussion

Where do I need to do that? Is that in the preference page? Or is that in the I/O page per channel?

Found it!!!!

 

[Aaron Hammett]

Re: Dead X32 - sorry to report

Hi Paul,

I am so sorry to hear of this. I will PM You straight away to advise you on how to proceed from here.

Kind Regards
Jim Knowles
CARE EMEA / Tech Support
MUSIC Group / BEHRINGER

I'd like to learn what kind/amount of liquid was spilled inside. Please report.

 

[Vinnie Martin]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

One feature I would like to see programmed into the X32 has to do with the assign section. I know this is probably not a big request since most folks here are using the X32 for live work. All I use it for is recording in my home studio. I have midi commands mapping the buttons and knobs in the assign section to functions in my DAW (Reaper). This works great, but the labels in the scribble strips show just the midi information (like, "midi ch 14 cc07" or something like that). It would be nice if you could custom label the scribble strip (like you can in the channel fader scribble strips) so that you could make it say whatever you want, like "Home" or "Pause" or "Jog wheel". Right now I am back to putting label tape on the console to identify what these buttons do, which is what the scribble strips were made to do away with.

I absolutely love the X32, though. I am still happy with the console even without this feature.

Vinnie

 

[Antoon van den Oetelaar]

Re: Dead X32 - sorry to report

I'd like to learn what kind/amount of liquid was spilled inside. Please report.

You do know more about this particular x32? 8O~8-O~:shock:

 

[Mick Berg]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

Indeed, and for musical theatre I wish there was the option for them to operate as HTP - I want to have two overlapping groups of radio mic channels, andfor a channel that is allocated to two DCA's, I want the signal to pass if EITHER DCA is up, not only if BOTH are up - and if both are up, I don't want the levels to add, I just want the higher of the two DCA settings to be used.

With all due respect, I think your request is not reasonable. DCA's don't work in the way you describe. It's like asking for the master fader to make you a cup of coffee:lol:


Mick Berg.

 

[Tim McCulloch]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

With all due respect, I think your request is not reasonable. DCA's don't work in the way you describe. It's like asking for the master fader to make you a cup of coffee :lol:


Mick Berg.

Why not? My computer has this nifty mug tray that pops out when I push the button... but sometimes it retracts and dumps my coffee...

 

[Dave Korman]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

With all due respect, I think your request is not reasonable. DCA's don't work in the way you describe. It's like asking for the master fader to make you a cup of coffee:lol:


Mick Berg.

That's an invalid argument/flawed logic. A master fader does not have the required physical capabilities to make a cup of coffee. A DCA fader can certainly do what I want - after all, it's not actually a DCA with D/A converters applying a voltage to the gate of a FET to control the gain of a pre-amp, it's just a bit of software calculating the effective gain that needs to be applied to the signal. It's a very simple bit of programming indeed - you just change the logic that you use when scanning the various fader values that are in use on the channel so come up with the effective gain to apply to the channel. Very easy to make it a selectable behaviour. (I'm a software developer and electronics engineer).

Just because something has always worked/been done in a certain way is no reason that it should not be done another way in the future.

 

[Antoon van den Oetelaar]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

That's an invalid argument/flawed logic. A master fader does not have the required physical capabilities to make a cup of coffee. A DCA fader can certainly do what I want - after all, it's not actually a DCA with D/A converters applying a voltage to the gate of a FET to control the gain of a pre-amp, it's just a bit of software calculating the effective gain that needs to be applied to the signal. It's a very simple bit of programming indeed - you just change the logic that you use when scanning the various fader values that are in use on the channel so come up with the effective gain to apply to the channel. Very easy to make it a selectable behaviour. (I'm a software developer and electronics engineer).

Just because something has always worked/been done in a certain way is no reason that it should not be done another way in the future.

You're right, but for simplicity of operation I would doubt if they should build it in. How many would take benefit of this?
When you keep functions simular compared to other consoles, it's relative easy to jump over. If this behaviour is selected, then many wouldn't figure out what really is happening without a brief knowledge / explanation.

That's also why many (including myself) want a more analog style of mute group behaviour.

But as I did mention before, maybe gido can make a killer OSC translator for you? So you can have your preferred way of working. :razz:

 

[Dave Korman]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

You're right, but for simplicity of operation I would doubt if they should build it in. How many would take benefit of this?
When you keep functions simular compared to other consoles, it's relative easy to jump over. If this behaviour is selected, then many wouldn't figure out what really is happening without a brief knowledge / explanation.

That's also why many (including myself) want a more analog style of mute group behaviour.

But as I did mention before, maybe gido can make a killer OSC translator for you? So you can have your preferred way of working. :razz:

It'd be easier to B to put in in the firmware and make it a selectable option - then we can all have it work the way we prefer.

 

[John Roberts]

Re: X32 Feature Requests

Not to confuse this with what analog consoles do... I did a custom (very analog) console design a few decades ago with a novel mute/solo group capability. A three position switch on each group allowed the group members to be solo'd or muted. IIRC we gave the solo mode over-ride capability over the mute command when there were conflicts.

In a digital console they can do pretty much anything you can imagine. Whether they should or not is another question...

I've wasted too many years listening to customers say if you just added this one feature it would be perfect....

Carry on...

JR