X32 Discussion

Re: New Products/Namm 2014

Can't that be done now with another "spare" x32, have one control another remotely? It would be a good use of a spare console.

Antoon van den Oetelaar said:
I think so, the purpose is to have the processing (Can be anything, full x32, rack or core) and input / outputs on stage, then use a wired or wireless control surface on the FOH position. I can imagine some occasions that you will remove the control surfaces after soundcheck / setup, and do the rest with the ...
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Re: scene help

Sincerest apologies for dragging this fantasy x32 engineering conversation back to Junior Varsity Level. lol

I have 8 wireless mics going into a stereo vocal group with appropriate panning info set. The vocal groups are going to LR then to Matrix 3&4 for hopefully a panned stereo out. Its not working. I have one person insisting to have panned vocals in the live 2 track recordings. Any way to do this besides multi tracking?



If trying to record to laptop via usb/ firewire out. I cant get enough gain on laptop no matter what I change on computer. Do I have card out configured correctly?


Can someone do a sticky on how to read a scene from a print out. View attachment ST BUS.doc
 
Re: X32 Slave mode would be a cool feature

Per Søvik said:
There are three ranges that need to be treated separately.

[-12 , -2.5] ADGain = -2, Trim = Gain -(-2)
[-2.0 , 47.5] ADGain = 0.5+2.5*INT((Gain-0.5)/2.5) , Trim=Gain - ADGain
[48.0 , 60] ADGain = 45.5 , Trim= Gain - 45.5

In other words:

IF (Gain<-2.0) THEN ADGain = -2.0,
ELSEIF (Gain<48.0) THEN ADGain = 0.5+2.5*INT((Gain-0.5)/2.5)
ELSE ADGain=45.5
END IF
Trim=Gain - ADGain

Hope this helps
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Here's one for Per to confirm I think!.....

In light of the trim changes +-18db in the latest firmware, I've been changing my sync link app for 2 x32s to sync together (considering it recently broke this bit!)

I think I am right in working out the updated code for gain v trim.........

IF (Gain<-2.0) THEN ADGain = -8.0,
ELSEIF (Gain<48.0) THEN ADGain = -0.5+2.5*INT((Gain-6.5)/2.5)
ELSE ADGain=39.5
END IF
Trim=Gain - ADGain

It seems to match my spreadsheet.

I've been using the synclink app on several shows now. It's been brilliant to enable complete remote control of the main console from the middle of the auditorium using a second x32. Still working on a few little bits. Assume it'll work just the same if you've got an x32 rack and want to control everything from an x32 desk.
 
Re: X32 Slave mode would be a cool feature

Mark Skyrme said:
Here's one for Per to confirm I think!.....
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Sorry Mark, I can't confirm that. While the digital trim range has changed on non-preamp signal sources, that should not have any influence whatsoever on the preamp sources.

You need to differentiate between the two modes, the +-18dB mode applies to digital inputs (AES50 except when controlling S16 preamp, card interface, USB-stick playback) and auxes.

Now that I have the Rack, I guess it is time for me to try out your application and give you some real feedback.
 
Re: scene help

Pete Stitz said:
Sincerest apologies for dragging this fantasy x32 engineering conversation back to Junior Varsity Level. lol

I have 8 wireless mics going into a stereo vocal group with appropriate panning info set. The vocal groups are going to LR then to Matrix 3&4 for hopefully a panned stereo out. Its not working. I have one person insisting to have panned vocals in the live 2 track recordings. Any way to do this besides multi tracking?



If trying to record to laptop via usb/ firewire out. I cant get enough gain on laptop no matter what I change on computer. Do I have card out configured correctly?


Can someone do a sticky on how to read a scene from a print out. View attachment 8195
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Your Matrix will work in stereo if you link it, ie. go to matrix 3 or 4 and select the link option in the home menu. As long as they are not linked, each matrix will receive a mono sum from Main LR.

Don't worry about the gain, it is probably hovering around the -18 dB mark if you have followed our tips about that, and that is fine, your recordings will have enough gain at that level. (Unless of course you have set some radical padding in the daw.)

As for reading a scene file, that was is exercise one indulges in to figure out the syntax of the OSC implementation of the X32, and as a consequence some of us have a limited ability in actually reading and understanding it.
However, to see what is going on with someone else's setup, I simply load it into X32Edit or my console
 
Re: scene help

I wish Behringer had a better Tech support, can't get a hold of them on weekends or after normal business hours. I just got an X32 new just yesterday and when it was powered up for the first time all it will do is start loading and give a message " FPGA Boot Failed checkpoint:HW_FPGA.CPP:22" and then will continue to try and reboot infinate times always giving the same message until you shut it down. We have tried updating the firm ware but it still never gets by the initial screen and message.
 
Re: scene help

Pete Stitz said:
Sincerest apologies for dragging this fantasy x32 engineering conversation back to Junior Varsity Level. lol


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If trying to record to laptop via usb/ firewire out. I cant get enough gain on laptop no matter what I change on computer. Do I have card out configured correctly?


Can someone do a sticky on how to read a scene from a print out. View attachment 8195
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what daw/sw are you recording to? The multi output from the x32 should be the direct outs & therefore at the level immediately post the pres therefore the Daw should be recording the audio at the same level you have pre-fader. To test whether the Daw is recording at the correct level try using the oscillator to check the calibration.
If not using s16s via aes50 then the card out in routing should be set to local 1-8,9-16,17-24,25-32. If using s16s then Aes50A 1-8, etc.
 
Re: X32 Slave mode would be a cool feature

Per Søvik said:
Now that I have the Rack, I guess it is time for me to try out your application and give you some real feedback.
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Thanks Per, I'll do some checks when I next link up the kit - I think it should be right!

I've just uploaded the latest version of the app which includes the trim changes. It's version 0.7 and you should be able to download from http://www.skylightsound.co.uk/uploads/1/2/7/1/12711859/x32_sync_link.zip

Mark
 
Re: scene help

Shane Roya Sr. said:
I wish Behringer had a better Tech support, can't get a hold of them on weekends or after normal business hours. I just got an X32 new just yesterday and when it was powered up for the first time all it will do is start loading and give a message " FPGA Boot Failed checkpoint:HW_FPGA.CPP:22" and then will continue to try and reboot infinate times always giving the same message until you shut it down. We have tried updating the firm ware but it still never gets by the initial screen and message.
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It's failing a hardware checkpoint after the motherboard POST. If you purchased locally, return it to the dealer on Monday and get a replacement. Otherwise call Behringer and get an return authorization for the DOA.
 
Re: scene help

Tim McCulloch said:
It's failing a hardware checkpoint after the motherboard POST. If you purchased locally, return it to the dealer on Monday and get a replacement. Otherwise call Behringer and get an return authorization for the DOA.
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Thanks for getting back on that, it does appear I will have to send it back on Monday. Funny thing is I have $50,000.00 worth of Behringer equipment and the reason I use it is because it very seldom ever gives me problems. I have only had one of 12 Behringer power amps ever fail over the last 9 years and one of about Behringer 10 mixers that had to be replaced. I have always been able to count on the signal processors to work and provide adequate sound if set up properly, so my experience with customer service is limited, I don't need to contact them. Just wish this Mixer had worked like all the other equipment.
 
Re: scene help

Shane Roya Sr. said:
I wish Behringer had a better Tech support, can't get a hold of them on weekends or after normal business hours. I just got an X32 new just yesterday and when it was powered up for the first time all it will do is start loading and give a message " FPGA Boot Failed checkpoint:HW_FPGA.CPP:22" and then will continue to try and reboot infinate times always giving the same message until you shut it down. We have tried updating the firm ware but it still never gets by the initial screen and message.
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Dear Shane,

Sorry to hear you are having an issue.
Have you tried loading the Firmware from a different USB stick?

I just sent you a PM you my cell, give me a ring tomorrow.
 
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Re: scene help

Shane Roya Sr. said:
Thanks for getting back on that, it does appear I will have to send it back on Monday. Funny thing is I have $50,000.00 worth of Behringer equipment and the reason I use it is because it very seldom ever gives me problems. I have only had one of 12 Behringer power amps ever fail over the last 9 years and one of about Behringer 10 mixers that had to be replaced. I have always been able to count on the signal processors to work and provide adequate sound if set up properly, so my experience with customer service is limited, I don't need to contact them. Just wish this Mixer had worked like all the other equipment.
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I'm not a Behringer rep, I just have internet search as My Little Friend. ;)

If your dealer can't replace the unit for you, call Joe at the number he sent you via PM. If there is a chance you can fix it (loose ribbon cable, etc) he'll have someone walk you through the process, otherwise they'll hook you up with a RMA.

Reported failures vs. reported number of units sold have been fairly low for a brand new product, and recent reports of DOA units have been almost non-existent.
 
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Joe and I believe it was Chase both worked with me today on Sunday their day off to get past the issue, we were able to get the new Firmware 1.15 installed but the unit still won't load past the initial screen "FPGA BOOT FAILURE"
I need to contact Unique Squared in the morning and send it back for a replacement unit. Funny it must be 32 channel desks that don't like me, I bought a Mackie Onyx 32.4 that on the second time using it I had no output on one of the stereo channels.
Yeah Tim I saw that Behringer only has a .77% failure rate according to tracking on the units done by there largest distributor.
 
Re: X32 Rack has arrived - setting up

I probably shouldn't say this, but why on earth would anyone in their right mind not buy the X32Rack?

I don't regret buying the X32, far from it, and I'm sure it will be used whenever there is a biggish production, a good location for FOH and laying cables is not a problem, but the Rack is the real game changer.

My plan was to put it in my stage rack, but I'm definitely thinking seriously about buying a Gator Rack Bag for those times when I don't need my stagerack, and thus having it handy all the time, like when I just carry a couple of active speakers, a microphone case and a tripod bag.

Actually, it is more than a Game Changer, it is a almost a Life Changer :D~:-D~:grin:
 
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