X32 Discussion

Re: Black Lion Audio mods

brian kozicki said:
I have a DL251, I'm just curious. It's easier to just mod something you already own than to buy a new box and hassle with selling the old ones.
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You will recover almost none of the cost of the mod when you sell off the S16. Sell the S16 now, and buy the M16.

Seriously. Incremental expenditures are almost always more expensive in the long run.
 
Re: Black Lion Audio mods

Tim McCulloch said:
You will recover almost none of the cost of the mod when you sell off the S16. Sell the S16 now, and buy the M16.

Seriously. Incremental expenditures are almost always more expensive in the long run.
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I question the very idea of shelling out money for a product that is rated on an arbitrary scale of 1-10.

No measurements, no reputable reviews. No thanks.
 
Re: Black Lion Audio mods

Spenser Hamilton said:
I question the very idea of shelling out money for a product that is rated on an arbitrary scale of 1-10.

No measurements, no reputable reviews. No thanks.
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Interestingly enough they rate the old ada8000 to sound better than the newer ada8200, But the s16 is rated even lower. I thought that the s16 shared its analog audio with the ad8200...?
 
Boot up behavior

Where I work, we start each day with the same scene on the X32. The people that work in the morning are not at all familiar with audio gear beyond being able to bring up the main fader for the presentation. At night, before I leave, I recall the scene that they are going to use before shutting down the board, but when it is powered back on, that scene is not loaded, but rather, the scene I was using before it comes back up.
I have tried to find a setting on the board that would control that, but I have had no luck.
Anyone else experienced this, or have an idea as to why the scene that is loaded when the console is powered off would not be the scene loaded when it is powered back on?
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Darron Jeans said:
Where I work, we start each day with the same scene on the X32. The people that work in the morning are not at all familiar with audio gear beyond being able to bring up the main fader for the presentation. At night, before I leave, I recall the scene that they are going to use before shutting down the board, but when it is powered back on, that scene is not loaded, but rather, the scene I was using before it comes back up.
I have tried to find a setting on the board that would control that, but I have had no luck.
Anyone else experienced this, or have an idea as to why the scene that is loaded when the console is powered off would not be the scene loaded when it is powered back on?
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Let me guess,
you do not shut down the console properly but simply switch it off.
There is a dedicated Shut Down button in the UI somewhere, you should use.

The console has two memories:
The scene memory ( self explaining ) and the -what I call- Temporary Memory.
The automated storing process for the TM is slow, I heard about two minutes or so for the full backup.
When you power the console on, it reads the TM and not the scene memory.

Using the Shut Down button makes the console store the last state to the TM immediately

Uwe
 
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Re: Boot up behavior

This thread surprises me. Firstly, AFAIK there is no shut down button, you just power off the console. BTW, preferred practise is to always leave the console on. All the stress in electronics happens at power off and power on. Second, if you recall a scene, then power off the console, that is how the console will come back on.
It's strange, everything you guys are saying is just not what I experience!
Mick Berg
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Mick Berg said:
This thread surprises me. Firstly, AFAIK there is no shut down button, you just power off the console. BTW, preferred practise is to always leave the console on. All the stress in electronics happens at power off and power on. Second, if you recall a scene, then power off the console, that is how the console will come back on.
It's strange, everything you guys are saying is just not what I experience!
Mick Berg
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Mick,

a) Of course there is no Shut Down button, I should have said software command and its called Shutdown, forgive the sloppiness.
b) In my business it is preferred practise to tear the equipment down and bring it back to the shop, so leaving the console on does not work for me very well.
c) Make sure you did not buy a Yamaha console where someone put a Behringer logo on.

Uwe
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Mick Berg said:
This thread surprises me. Firstly, AFAIK there is no shut down button, you just power off the console. BTW, preferred practise is to always leave the console on. All the stress in electronics happens at power off and power on. Second, if you recall a scene, then power off the console, that is how the console will come back on.
It's strange, everything you guys are saying is just not what I experience!
Mick Berg
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You are almost right but if you recall a different scene or make certain changes on the console and immediately turn the power off it may not come back to the exact state it was in when you turned it off. This is what the others are saying; there is a certain amount of time that the console needs to update its memory. That is why they added a shutdown selection, but I don’t remember in what version of the firmware it was added. I am pretty sure it was after ver2.0 or in ver2.0.

I don’t have a console in front of me too confirm exactly where it is and it isn’t in the X32Edit or M32Edit software. But I think it is on the “Setup” button the “Global” tab in the bottom left corner of the screen you will see a “Shut Down” selection that after selected will tell you when it is ok to turn off the power. I have gotten in the habit of doing that all of the time even if I think enough time has passed that I don’t have to do it. If the OK message shows up very quickly you probably didn’t really need to go thru that procedure, if it takes a couple of seconds then it is forcing a save.
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Kevin Maxwell said:
...But I think it is on the “Setup” button the “Global” tab in the bottom left corner of the screen you will see a “Shut Down” selection that after selected will tell you when it is ok to turn off the power...
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Hi Kevin,

I just looked in my M32-Edit and don't see the Shut Down selection in the Global tab of the Setup section. I also didn't see it in any of the other tabs in Setup.

I'd love to know what I'm missing here - Thanks!

Best regards,
Bob Charest
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Bob Charest said:
Hi Kevin,

I just looked in my M32-Edit and don't see the Shut Down selection in the Global tab of the Setup section. I also didn't see it in any of the other tabs in Setup.

I'd love to know what I'm missing here - Thanks!

Best regards,
Bob Charest
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As I said:
"I don’t have a console in front of me too confirm exactly where it is and it isn’t in the X32Edit or M32Edit software. But I think it is on the “Setup” button the “Global” tab in the bottom left corner of the screen you will see a “Shut Down” selection that after selected will tell you when it is ok to turn off the power."

As Shane said - "On the console bob, not the software"

Maybe I need to take a writing course so what I write is easier to understand. English isn’t my first language, Baby Talk was. ;-0
 
Re: Boot up behavior

Uwe Riemer said:
Mick,

a) Of course there is no Shut Down button, I should have said software command and its called Shutdown, forgive the sloppiness.
b) In my business it is preferred practise to tear the equipment down and bring it back to the shop, so leaving the console on does not work for me very well.
c) Make sure you did not buy a Yamaha console where someone put a Behringer logo on.

Uwe
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My apologies, I stand corrected on both issues. It's been so long since I had to strike my FOH setups that I forgot that some people have to!
Mick
 
Re: X32 Discussion

Tim Weaver said:
I yank the power. Every show for about 2 years. No problems yet.
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The X32 saves its current state periodically. If you yank the power, it will restore itself to the last state that was saved. It may not be exactly the state it was in when powered off. If you go through the safe shutdown method, you will know exactly where it will be when it comes back on.
 
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