Re: X32 Discussion
Ah, right, dBv. I was that far off on the difference, though, huh? Hmm. I wonder where I'd read that.
Ah, right, dBv. I was that far off on the difference, though, huh? Hmm. I wonder where I'd read that.
X32 Discussion
- Thread starter Rob Spence
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Re: X32 Discussion
Yup: 11.79dB to be exact:
http://www.harmoniccycle.com/hc/music-26-+4dBu-10dBV.htm
Yup: 11.79dB to be exact:
http://www.harmoniccycle.com/hc/music-26-+4dBu-10dBV.htm
Re: X32 Discussion
Upcoming event is to big for one X32, I need about 42 mic channels + some extra.
I would like to use 2 X32 full size, and 3 S16 stage box.
I would like to put the S16 in series on the AES50 / cat cable, connect this one to the first X32 and connect the B port to the second X32.
On the second X32 I use the input channels of 1 S16 and make some groups and send these to the other X32 over the AES50, where I have my main mix and the outputs connected.
Should this work? How should the headamp gain be adjusted in this case?
Upcoming event is to big for one X32, I need about 42 mic channels + some extra.
I would like to use 2 X32 full size, and 3 S16 stage box.
I would like to put the S16 in series on the AES50 / cat cable, connect this one to the first X32 and connect the B port to the second X32.
On the second X32 I use the input channels of 1 S16 and make some groups and send these to the other X32 over the AES50, where I have my main mix and the outputs connected.
Should this work? How should the headamp gain be adjusted in this case?
Re: X32 Discussion
Here is some info: Hope this helps
http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6025-Linking-two-X32-consoles-together&highlight=linking
Here is some info: Hope this helps
http://forum.music-group.com/showthread.php?6025-Linking-two-X32-consoles-together&highlight=linking
Re: X32 Discussion
Sorry to keep posting as I learn my x32, but has anyone experienced their x32 suddenly making a loud crescendo noise? Almost sounds like a reverb feeding back but the way I've got my console setup, I'm not sure how this would be possible...this sound gets incredibly loud, but then stops itself. It would be very problematic during a real show, but it happens and ends too quick for me to have tracked down where it might be coming from.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
-Daniel
Sorry to keep posting as I learn my x32, but has anyone experienced their x32 suddenly making a loud crescendo noise? Almost sounds like a reverb feeding back but the way I've got my console setup, I'm not sure how this would be possible...this sound gets incredibly loud, but then stops itself. It would be very problematic during a real show, but it happens and ends too quick for me to have tracked down where it might be coming from.
Thoughts?
Thanks!
-Daniel
Re: X32 Discussion
You have created a loop somewhere. Your observation is correct.
You have created a loop somewhere. Your observation is correct.
Re: X32 Discussion
Yes, this is very possible...where would you recommend to start looking? Any way to sniff it out?
The trouble is that it has happened twice, both completely randomly. It's definitely not an open mic loop because none were attached at the time.
I am unable to track it down because before I can start going through my banks to find it, it's gone. And everything appears routed correctly...
tips on tracking this down?
-Daniel
Yes, this is very possible...where would you recommend to start looking? Any way to sniff it out?
The trouble is that it has happened twice, both completely randomly. It's definitely not an open mic loop because none were attached at the time.
I am unable to track it down because before I can start going through my banks to find it, it's gone. And everything appears routed correctly...
tips on tracking this down?
-Daniel
Re: X32 Discussion
The 'best' way to create a feedback on the X32 is on the returns of the FX1 to FX4. When they are using the standard configuration the FXs will be fed by bus13 to Bus16. Send some signal from the FX return channels to the corresponding bus can cause an increasing feedback. Have a look on that.
The 'best' way to create a feedback on the X32 is on the returns of the FX1 to FX4. When they are using the standard configuration the FXs will be fed by bus13 to Bus16. Send some signal from the FX return channels to the corresponding bus can cause an increasing feedback. Have a look on that.
Re: X32 Discussion
Look at the meter page when it starts. That should tell you where it is and where it isn't.
Re: X32 Discussion
Hello
First turn ALL your amplifiers OFF to protect your system from damage.
If you have iPad or Android tablet - set it to display all meters. If not - keep eye on meters on desk
Go to left faderbank page 4 and push all your BUS-faders UP
Next go to left faderbank page 3 where AUX-INs and EFFECT RETURNs are
Try to push them ALL THE WAY UP - one by one or all of them at once
Observe the meters while doing this.
Hope this helps.
Hello
First turn ALL your amplifiers OFF to protect your system from damage.
If you have iPad or Android tablet - set it to display all meters. If not - keep eye on meters on desk
Go to left faderbank page 4 and push all your BUS-faders UP
Next go to left faderbank page 3 where AUX-INs and EFFECT RETURNs are
Try to push them ALL THE WAY UP - one by one or all of them at once
Observe the meters while doing this.
Hope this helps.
Re: X32 Discussion
Thank you!
I'll check into this and see if I can locate it.
Best,
-Daniel
Thank you!
I'll check into this and see if I can locate it.
Best,
-Daniel
Re: X32 Discussion
Thank you Timo!
I will use the advice you and Klaus provided to get this thing figured out...I'm sure it's something stupidly simple, it was just the randomness
of it that made it difficult to track down. I appreciate your tips on finding it.
Best,
-Daniel
Thank you Timo!
I will use the advice you and Klaus provided to get this thing figured out...I'm sure it's something stupidly simple, it was just the randomness
of it that made it difficult to track down. I appreciate your tips on finding it.
Best,
-Daniel
Re: X32 Discussion
sending any fx to that same fx in SOF mode will do this every time. Hit your SOF button and select each bus one by one 13-16, look on the input fader side and check if any of the fx sends are up, only ch's that need the fx should be raised up, not fx sends-that will start a feedback loop. Easy not to see this when not in SOF mode
sending any fx to that same fx in SOF mode will do this every time. Hit your SOF button and select each bus one by one 13-16, look on the input fader side and check if any of the fx sends are up, only ch's that need the fx should be raised up, not fx sends-that will start a feedback loop. Easy not to see this when not in SOF mode
Re: X32 Discussion
How do Param Safe and Channel Safes "really" work?
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]I've read a lot of threads and done a good amount of playing, but I can't seem to get global safes to work "correctly".[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]My Config:[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]* I'm using X32-Edit for Mac v2.3 (Latest)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]* X32 Rack with firmware v2.10 (Latest)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]I sync'd with the rack copying the Show/Scenes to X32-Edit. I tried to modify a few Param Safe and Channel safe settings. For example, Channel 9 was set to Safe, and I unchecked that value. I exported the show, saved settings, and saved the scene. But when I re-import the show, my "Safes" changes didn't take effect. For example, Channel 9 is checked again.[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]From what I've read, my guess is that because Safes are "tied to the console", I need to change the Safes on the console, sync down to the PC, edit the show, save the show etc. Then the show will load correctly? (I don't have the rack with me so I can't test this theory.)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]Thanks
[/FONT]
How do Param Safe and Channel Safes "really" work?
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]I've read a lot of threads and done a good amount of playing, but I can't seem to get global safes to work "correctly".[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]My Config:[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]* I'm using X32-Edit for Mac v2.3 (Latest)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]* X32 Rack with firmware v2.10 (Latest)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]I sync'd with the rack copying the Show/Scenes to X32-Edit. I tried to modify a few Param Safe and Channel safe settings. For example, Channel 9 was set to Safe, and I unchecked that value. I exported the show, saved settings, and saved the scene. But when I re-import the show, my "Safes" changes didn't take effect. For example, Channel 9 is checked again.[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]From what I've read, my guess is that because Safes are "tied to the console", I need to change the Safes on the console, sync down to the PC, edit the show, save the show etc. Then the show will load correctly? (I don't have the rack with me so I can't test this theory.)[/FONT]
[FONT=lucida_granderegular]Thanks
[/FONT]
Re: X32 Discussion
There are some bugs in X32-Edit that will screw up your show files, so some things need to be edited and saved on the console. I know that stinks when you are using a Rack, but it's even worse for those who have a Core :twisted:
There are some bugs in X32-Edit that will screw up your show files, so some things need to be edited and saved on the console. I know that stinks when you are using a Rack, but it's even worse for those who have a Core :twisted:
Re: X32 Discussion
As I understand it, Woody, the two important things to know about safes are: 1) they don't get saved anywhere, & 2) they only affect what you load.
Perhaps I've misunderstood something, but it only makes sense: you cannot put instructions inside a file about what not to load from that file, and in fact you don't want to, since which things you don't want to load depends more on why you're loading, and the file doesn't know that.
As I understand it, Woody, the two important things to know about safes are: 1) they don't get saved anywhere, & 2) they only affect what you load.
Perhaps I've misunderstood something, but it only makes sense: you cannot put instructions inside a file about what not to load from that file, and in fact you don't want to, since which things you don't want to load depends more on why you're loading, and the file doesn't know that.
Re: X32 Discussion
Thanks Per and Jay! You've confirmed my suspicions. I think one thing that helps me rationalize this is I've noticed these are called "console safes" as opposed to scene safes. This helps me to remember these are settings on the console, that when selected, are not over ridden by the Show/Scene. Unfortunately, I won't be able to play with this more until next week when I have access to the Rack again. (My Compact is still on version 1.15 because I have an iPad 1 and the iPad app is not backward compatible :-(
FYI - Jay - I could see saving the global safes in the Show file because you want them to apply across all scenes. For example, you're doing 2 different shows at 2 different venues. Both venues have a Master of Ceremonies, but for venue 1 that mic is on Ch 1 and for venue 2 its on Ch2. So you'd want to set Ch 1 as Channel Safe in Show 1 and Channel 2 as Channel Safe in Show 2.
Thanks Per and Jay! You've confirmed my suspicions. I think one thing that helps me rationalize this is I've noticed these are called "console safes" as opposed to scene safes. This helps me to remember these are settings on the console, that when selected, are not over ridden by the Show/Scene. Unfortunately, I won't be able to play with this more until next week when I have access to the Rack again. (My Compact is still on version 1.15 because I have an iPad 1 and the iPad app is not backward compatible :-(
FYI - Jay - I could see saving the global safes in the Show file because you want them to apply across all scenes. For example, you're doing 2 different shows at 2 different venues. Both venues have a Master of Ceremonies, but for venue 1 that mic is on Ch 1 and for venue 2 its on Ch2. So you'd want to set Ch 1 as Channel Safe in Show 1 and Channel 2 as Channel Safe in Show 2.
Re: X32 Discussion
Pehaps, yes. My usage hasn't been complicated enough yet to need safes at all.
Pehaps, yes. My usage hasn't been complicated enough yet to need safes at all.
Re: USB Hard drive for recording?
Re: USB Hard drive for recording?
Originally Posted by Arik Semagin 
Another idea for USB music playback: many cars now have USB port that is tied to the car radio (even on Chevy trucks!). When iPhone is connected, pretty much the entire iTunes screen is displayed on the radio, with playback controls, just like on the phone itself. And car radio is much simpler device than X32.
I wonder if Behringer plans to implement something similar in the future, means adding iPhone connect functionality to USB port on the top and replacing the "cassette deck" USB playback screen with iTunes-like screen, similar to what we already see in the cars, example below. Everyone has their fav tunes saved on iPhone already, it will be way simpler than convert them to .WAV, transfer to USB drive and use the rudimentary navigation menu as X32 has now.
I'm sure there will be some licensing involved, but Behringer may offer it as an add-on option. I don't mind paying an extra $50 or so for convenience. Make the next firmware upgrade cost $50, I don't care, just make it happened. Or offer "free" regular upgrade and "paid" one with iPhone/iTunes integration. Car makers got it resolved, why can't Uli do the same?
Because the X32 is a mixing console, not a car stereo or iPod support device.
Please Uli, don't even think about it!
Mick Berg.
Thanks for bold statement, Mick!
Guess what: Yamaha just did it with the new TF series mixers. You can plug iOS device AND the hard drive in USB port and do all these things that were discussed here. See the screenshot of Yamaha TF series reference manual below.
Hopefully Uli will think about it and catch up with Yamaha.
.
Re: USB Hard drive for recording?
Another idea for USB music playback: many cars now have USB port that is tied to the car radio (even on Chevy trucks!). When iPhone is connected, pretty much the entire iTunes screen is displayed on the radio, with playback controls, just like on the phone itself. And car radio is much simpler device than X32.
I wonder if Behringer plans to implement something similar in the future, means adding iPhone connect functionality to USB port on the top and replacing the "cassette deck" USB playback screen with iTunes-like screen, similar to what we already see in the cars, example below. Everyone has their fav tunes saved on iPhone already, it will be way simpler than convert them to .WAV, transfer to USB drive and use the rudimentary navigation menu as X32 has now.
I'm sure there will be some licensing involved, but Behringer may offer it as an add-on option. I don't mind paying an extra $50 or so for convenience. Make the next firmware upgrade cost $50, I don't care, just make it happened. Or offer "free" regular upgrade and "paid" one with iPhone/iTunes integration. Car makers got it resolved, why can't Uli do the same?
Because the X32 is a mixing console, not a car stereo or iPod support device.
Please Uli, don't even think about it!
Mick Berg.
Thanks for bold statement, Mick!
Guess what: Yamaha just did it with the new TF series mixers. You can plug iOS device AND the hard drive in USB port and do all these things that were discussed here. See the screenshot of Yamaha TF series reference manual below.
Hopefully Uli will think about it and catch up with Yamaha.
.
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